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trans women are going to rape children Did she really state that? If so, please provide a citation. If not, claiming this would be a grave diffamation that ca

by kleiba 5y ago

trans women are going to rape children Did she really state that? If so, please provide a citation. If not, claiming this would be a grave diffamation that cannot be taken lightly, whether or not one dislikes her position on LGBTIQA+.

QuercusMax 5y ago
She's definitely accused transwomen of being rapists, and wrote a book about a man who wears a dress to kill women. Btw, the word is "defamation". Here's an article with some documentation: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints-trans-women-rapists-author-continues-crusade-civil-rights/ https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints...
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- labster 5y ago
  Article includes no JKR quotes, but lots of quotes from enraged twitterati. She uses an Orwell quote which doesn’t refer to rape at all, just to doublethink. Please provide evidence, not smear campaigns.
  - treesprite82 5y ago
    > Article includes no JKR quotes > She uses an Orwell quote which doesn’t refer to rape at all Third paragraph of the article has a JKR quote directly referencing rape. Not sure if it backs up the original "freaking out about..." claim, but maybe "by placing undue emphasis, perpetuates the narrative that...".
    - kleiba 5y ago
      Not sure if it backs up the original "freaking out about..." claim [...] Not at all. This quote is from a JKR tweet that she made referring to a Times article on the praxis of UK police recording rape crimes as being committed by a women when the perpetrator identifies as female (even if they have male genitalia). So, neither did JKR (in that quote) equate trans people with rapist nor did she bring up the whole topic. Rather, she reacted to a newspaper article on the topic, and certainly not in a way that could by any stretch of the imagination be characterized as "freaking out".
- kleiba 5y ago
  Btw, the word is "defamation". Thanks!
edrx 5y ago
It was "trans women are going to rape children _or something like that_". Most reactions that I saw about J.K. Rowling's 3600-word essay point out that she equates transness with intent to rape, so I think that the original sentence with the "or something like that" is ok. Here are two links: https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/2020/06/14/j-k-rowling-and-the-chamber-of-terfdom-by-paul-haw/ https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/2020/06/14/j-k-rowlin... https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints-trans-women-rapists-author-continues-crusade-civil-rights/ https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints...
- iamdamian 5y ago
  I don't see that in the articles you linked. Can you quote the evidence that she equates trans-ness with rape? I _do_ see something about her questioning whether gender self-identification should affect whether someone is allowed to be tried for rape (since, if I understand correctly from the article you linked, the UK seems to not allow women to be tried for rape). It's difficult to follow to the original quote because some of the linked articles and original sources are paywalled.

by kleiba 5y ago

QuercusMax 5y ago

She's definitely accused transwomen of being rapists, and wrote a book about a man who wears a dress to kill women. Btw, the word is "defamation". Here's an article with some documentation: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints-trans-women-rapists-author-continues-crusade-civil-rights/ https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints...

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labster 5y ago
Article includes no JKR quotes, but lots of quotes from enraged twitterati. She uses an Orwell quote which doesn’t refer to rape at all, just to doublethink. Please provide evidence, not smear campaigns.
- treesprite82 5y ago
  > Article includes no JKR quotes > She uses an Orwell quote which doesn’t refer to rape at all Third paragraph of the article has a JKR quote directly referencing rape. Not sure if it backs up the original "freaking out about..." claim, but maybe "by placing undue emphasis, perpetuates the narrative that...".
  - kleiba 5y ago
    Not sure if it backs up the original "freaking out about..." claim [...] Not at all. This quote is from a JKR tweet that she made referring to a Times article on the praxis of UK police recording rape crimes as being committed by a women when the perpetrator identifies as female (even if they have male genitalia). So, neither did JKR (in that quote) equate trans people with rapist nor did she bring up the whole topic. Rather, she reacted to a newspaper article on the topic, and certainly not in a way that could by any stretch of the imagination be characterized as "freaking out".
kleiba 5y ago
Btw, the word is "defamation". Thanks!

edrx 5y ago

It was "trans women are going to rape children _or something like that_". Most reactions that I saw about J.K. Rowling's 3600-word essay point out that she equates transness with intent to rape, so I think that the original sentence with the "or something like that" is ok. Here are two links: https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/2020/06/14/j-k-rowling-and-the-chamber-of-terfdom-by-paul-haw/ https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/2020/06/14/j-k-rowlin... https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints-trans-women-rapists-author-continues-crusade-civil-rights/ https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/12/j-k-rowling-tweet-paints...

iamdamian 5y ago
I don't see that in the articles you linked. Can you quote the evidence that she equates trans-ness with rape? I _do_ see something about her questioning whether gender self-identification should affect whether someone is allowed to be tried for rape (since, if I understand correctly from the article you linked, the UK seems to not allow women to be tried for rape). It's difficult to follow to the original quote because some of the linked articles and original sources are paywalled.