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yes, definitely not "hard men", more like what you described, except various intelligence agencies who don't always wear a gun, are also included.

ordu 5y ago
Well, FSB is an intelligence agency, and they wear guns or at least have a license to wear gun. Though I cannot argue. I rely on my intuitive knowledge of Russian which is hard to use as a rational argument. This knowledge tells me that "силовые структуры"/"structures of force" are organizations that use force to solve problems. And I think that all of them wear guns. But I may be wrong with that last statement, and moreover language is changing, so the generally accepted meaning of the word can differ from what I had learnt in my childhood.
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- Koshkin 5y ago
  > FSB is an intelligence agency It is a security agency, a.k.a. the “secret police.” (It does, of course, spy on the populace.)
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    Basically the Stasi of Russia, no?
    - outside1234 5y ago
      They are, in fact, what the Stasi were modeled after.
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    - andy-x 5y ago
      FSB is former KGB, so indeed it is Stasi, but KGB may be even more familiar name from those times.
- HWR_14 5y ago
  > FSB is an intelligence agency, They are also a military branch and have military ranks, although they don't wear uniforms. The FSB acts like a combination of FBI, a border patrol and secret police. They are also the group allowed to carry out an assassination on foreign soil (according to Russian law), although they are not allowed to authorize such a mission on their own.
qiskit 5y ago
We get what you are trying to say, but people carry guns, they don't wear guns.
- SkinTaco 5y ago
  What were you hoping the readers of your comment would gain from your comment? Apologies if this comes off abrasively. This is a genuine question that thought to myself when I read your comment. I can't think of a better way to phrase it.
  - qiskit 5y ago
    Edification. Nobody says "wear a gun". It doesn't sound right. Was assuming the commenter was a non-native english speaker and was helping him out.
    - js2 5y ago
      I’m a native U.S. English speaker and I didn’t think twice about “wear a gun”. People absolutely say that. It’s not even pedantically incorrect: 2 (b) to carry on the person; wear a sword https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wear https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wear https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wearing+a+gun%22&tbm=bks https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wearing+a+gun%22&tbm=bks
      - qiskit 5y ago
        > I’m a native U.S. English speaker and I didn’t think twice about “wear a gun”. Maybe it's regional. I've never heard it said that way before. "Are you wearing a gun"? "Concealed wearing laws"? Doesn't sound right, but I guess people do use it. Don't cops ask "Do you have a gun on you" or "Are you carrying?". I think most of us would find it weird if a cop asked us "Are you wearing a gun?".
        dragonwriter 5y ago
        ”Wearing” a gun pretty specifically is used for having it in, or at least with, a holster (I’ve seen it used a lot, and always with that meaning; it is pretty much the combination of wearing the holster and carrying the gun that goes in it; I’ve mostly seen it used of people who do that regularly as part of a job or lifestyle, either speaking about them in general or discussing whether they were or were not doing so at a particular time.) “Carrying” is more general and more often of interest. > Don't cops ask "Do you have a gun on you" or "Are you carrying?" In person, I’be most frequently observed the former (fortunately, not much experience), but on TV both cops and crooks tend to use “carrying” with an implied direct object a lot. > I think most of us would find it weird if a cop asked us "Are you wearing a gun?". Sure, because that's not what a cop is likely concerned about.

ordu 5y ago

Well, FSB is an intelligence agency, and they wear guns or at least have a license to wear gun. Though I cannot argue. I rely on my intuitive knowledge of Russian which is hard to use as a rational argument. This knowledge tells me that "силовые структуры"/"structures of force" are organizations that use force to solve problems. And I think that all of them wear guns. But I may be wrong with that last statement, and moreover language is changing, so the generally accepted meaning of the word can differ from what I had learnt in my childhood.

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Koshkin 5y ago
> FSB is an intelligence agency It is a security agency, a.k.a. the “secret police.” (It does, of course, spy on the populace.)
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Basically the Stasi of Russia, no?
  - outside1234 5y ago
    They are, in fact, what the Stasi were modeled after.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - andy-x 5y ago
    FSB is former KGB, so indeed it is Stasi, but KGB may be even more familiar name from those times.
HWR_14 5y ago
> FSB is an intelligence agency, They are also a military branch and have military ranks, although they don't wear uniforms. The FSB acts like a combination of FBI, a border patrol and secret police. They are also the group allowed to carry out an assassination on foreign soil (according to Russian law), although they are not allowed to authorize such a mission on their own.

qiskit 5y ago

We get what you are trying to say, but people carry guns, they don't wear guns.

SkinTaco 5y ago
What were you hoping the readers of your comment would gain from your comment? Apologies if this comes off abrasively. This is a genuine question that thought to myself when I read your comment. I can't think of a better way to phrase it.
- qiskit 5y ago
  Edification. Nobody says "wear a gun". It doesn't sound right. Was assuming the commenter was a non-native english speaker and was helping him out.
  - js2 5y ago
    I’m a native U.S. English speaker and I didn’t think twice about “wear a gun”. People absolutely say that. It’s not even pedantically incorrect: 2 (b) to carry on the person; wear a sword https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wear https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wear https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wearing+a+gun%22&tbm=bks https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wearing+a+gun%22&tbm=bks
    - qiskit 5y ago
      > I’m a native U.S. English speaker and I didn’t think twice about “wear a gun”. Maybe it's regional. I've never heard it said that way before. "Are you wearing a gun"? "Concealed wearing laws"? Doesn't sound right, but I guess people do use it. Don't cops ask "Do you have a gun on you" or "Are you carrying?". I think most of us would find it weird if a cop asked us "Are you wearing a gun?".
      - dragonwriter 5y ago
        ”Wearing” a gun pretty specifically is used for having it in, or at least with, a holster (I’ve seen it used a lot, and always with that meaning; it is pretty much the combination of wearing the holster and carrying the gun that goes in it; I’ve mostly seen it used of people who do that regularly as part of a job or lifestyle, either speaking about them in general or discussing whether they were or were not doing so at a particular time.) “Carrying” is more general and more often of interest. > Don't cops ask "Do you have a gun on you" or "Are you carrying?" In person, I’be most frequently observed the former (fortunately, not much experience), but on TV both cops and crooks tend to use “carrying” with an implied direct object a lot. > I think most of us would find it weird if a cop asked us "Are you wearing a gun?". Sure, because that's not what a cop is likely concerned about.