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A half a kilo of CO2 per km is pretty hefty... Edit: 1.8lbs/mile of you prefer.

by FastMonkey 5y ago

Mikeb85 5y ago
Yup. On the other hand cars such as these are rarely driven.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  I think people might drive this sort of thing on a regular basis. Traditional "supercar" sports cars are rarely driven and especially not on daily basis. Partly because of their value, but also because they tend to be spectacularly impractical and are usually uncomfortable to boot. Can't even fit your groceries in them half the time. This monster pickup truck is actually practical as an everyday driver. (I'm not saying that 1000HP is something people actually need; I'm just saying - you could drive it to the store and carry your groceries home with it comfortably)
  - Bud 5y ago
    Practical? Practical? That's laughable. It's not even good for groceries, for reasons anyone who has actually bought groceries can readily fathom. You want your groceries in a backseat or in a trunk, not in the cab of this stupid testosterone-poisoning-advertising machine. In any warm climate, you don't want your groceries out in the hot sun while you drive home, and in any cold climate, you don't want them damaged by that weather, either. A Honda Civic is 20x more practical and carries 2.5x more passengers and gets 5x better mileage. If you want to roll coal, fine, but just admit it. Let's not pretend this vehicle is in ANY way "practical". It's just not.
    - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
      Ok, it's not practical if you define practical as carrying things it's not good at carrying and ignore the ability to load wood, tools, furniture, etc.
    - hedora 5y ago
      This truck has a back seat. Unless they removed this feature recently, you can even fold the seat bottoms up, and fold out a riser that makes the back floor completely flat. It should hold a few dozen paper grocery bags in a single layer, no problem. Of course, you could get a cover for the bed, and fit many, many more groceries back there. I think the Rivian is a much flashier truck though. It has a better 0-60 time than the un-capped Hennessey RAM, and is less than half the price. Neither are practical for "truck stuff" (the Rivian has a small bed, and depreciation on the Hennessey is going to dwarf the value of most loads). At least the rivian is solid around town and for offroading/camping. If you want to roll coal, you can go die in a fire. Seriously. You're assaulting everyone around you with carcinogens and cardiovascular poisons. I'd ask how it's legal, but it's not (at least around here). A better question is why the law isn't enforced.
    - JohnBooty 5y ago
      Well, the good news is that I agree with you. Looks like you misread my post and/or aren't familiar with typical USA pickup trucks. It's not even good for groceries, for reasons anyone who has actually bought groceries can readily fathom Sorry, no. Like many pickup trucks sold in America (not sure about elsewhere) the TRX has two rows of interior passenger seats and seats four people. The back seats fold away and create a large interior cargo space if desired. Additionally, many folks with pickup trucks have tonneau covers on their cargo beds for everyday use when they're not transporting anything really big -- at that point the cargo bed is essentially a traditional car trunk/boot. Such vehicles are popular with the significant portion of folks who "need a truck a few times a year, but want something that can be used as an everyday vehicle because they don't want to own two separate vehicles." A Honda Civic is 20x more practical and carries 2.5x more passengers and gets 5x better mileage. Yeah, again, sorry. The TRX seats 4 people. Do I wish people would drive Civics (or smaller) vehicles instead of these monster trucks? Yes. Do I personally drive a much smaller, hybrid vehicle similar to the Civic? Yes. Have I been working remotely for 4+ years, partly for environmental reasons, to avoid driving in the first place? Yes. If you want to roll coal, fine, but just admit it. Let's not pretend this vehicle is in ANY way "practical". It's just not. I tried to be clear in my post. I do not think anybody should be using such a monstrous vehicle for mundane everyday tasks like transporting groceries. Obivously it is overkill of the highest order and a bit of a menace. But you certainly could use it for that. In that sense it is eminently practical. That's what makes vehicles like this such a potential environmental nightmare. Unlike a lot of other vehicles in the "$100,000 / 1000HP" neighborhood, people might actually use this monster as an everyday driver rather than a "garage queen."
  - martin8412 5y ago
    Where would you park it? I have not been to Finland, but here in Spain it would not fit in many parking spaces. Not to mention narrow roads where they can’t physically fit
oh_sigh 5y ago
1 gallon of gas puts out 19 pounds of CO2, so this equates to about 10.5 mpg which actually sounds reasonable for a 1000 HP supertruck that weighs 7800 lbs. A stock Ford F-250 only gets 16 mpg for reference.
- FastMonkey 5y ago
  I'd argue it's ordinary rather than reasonable. It seems like the tax is fair, you can import a 1000hp beast for personal use and get taxed heavily, or you can import it for whatever sort of haulage you need a 1000hp pickup truck for and you're limited by the rules of other haulage trucks.
  - cmeacham98 5y ago
    I think they don't mean it's a reasonable emission, they mean it's a reasonable statistic (i.e. it's likely not made up or miscalculated).
    - FastMonkey 5y ago
      I understand. On the team I'm on right now, we're trying to make some large changes, and some of that has to do with challenging assumptions. I'm just primed to see things like "10 weeks is a reasonable amount of time for Y" as a check point to ask whether it's actually reasonable, or whether we've fallen into a pattern that we've stopped questioning.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  Pretty much everything in Europe thats gas powered gets 50+ mpg... Or is electric... They've adapted to high fuel costs!
  - mywittyname 5y ago
    You mean prices drive consumer behavior?!?!?! Amazing.
  - 5y ago

A half a kilo of CO2 per km is pretty hefty... Edit: 1.8lbs/mile of you prefer.

Mikeb85 5y ago

Yup. On the other hand cars such as these are rarely driven.

JohnBooty 5y ago
I think people might drive this sort of thing on a regular basis. Traditional "supercar" sports cars are rarely driven and especially not on daily basis. Partly because of their value, but also because they tend to be spectacularly impractical and are usually uncomfortable to boot. Can't even fit your groceries in them half the time. This monster pickup truck is actually practical as an everyday driver. (I'm not saying that 1000HP is something people actually need; I'm just saying - you could drive it to the store and carry your groceries home with it comfortably)
- Bud 5y ago
  Practical? Practical? That's laughable. It's not even good for groceries, for reasons anyone who has actually bought groceries can readily fathom. You want your groceries in a backseat or in a trunk, not in the cab of this stupid testosterone-poisoning-advertising machine. In any warm climate, you don't want your groceries out in the hot sun while you drive home, and in any cold climate, you don't want them damaged by that weather, either. A Honda Civic is 20x more practical and carries 2.5x more passengers and gets 5x better mileage. If you want to roll coal, fine, but just admit it. Let's not pretend this vehicle is in ANY way "practical". It's just not.
  - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
    Ok, it's not practical if you define practical as carrying things it's not good at carrying and ignore the ability to load wood, tools, furniture, etc.
  - hedora 5y ago
    This truck has a back seat. Unless they removed this feature recently, you can even fold the seat bottoms up, and fold out a riser that makes the back floor completely flat. It should hold a few dozen paper grocery bags in a single layer, no problem. Of course, you could get a cover for the bed, and fit many, many more groceries back there. I think the Rivian is a much flashier truck though. It has a better 0-60 time than the un-capped Hennessey RAM, and is less than half the price. Neither are practical for "truck stuff" (the Rivian has a small bed, and depreciation on the Hennessey is going to dwarf the value of most loads). At least the rivian is solid around town and for offroading/camping. If you want to roll coal, you can go die in a fire. Seriously. You're assaulting everyone around you with carcinogens and cardiovascular poisons. I'd ask how it's legal, but it's not (at least around here). A better question is why the law isn't enforced.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    Well, the good news is that I agree with you. Looks like you misread my post and/or aren't familiar with typical USA pickup trucks. It's not even good for groceries, for reasons anyone who has actually bought groceries can readily fathom Sorry, no. Like many pickup trucks sold in America (not sure about elsewhere) the TRX has two rows of interior passenger seats and seats four people. The back seats fold away and create a large interior cargo space if desired. Additionally, many folks with pickup trucks have tonneau covers on their cargo beds for everyday use when they're not transporting anything really big -- at that point the cargo bed is essentially a traditional car trunk/boot. Such vehicles are popular with the significant portion of folks who "need a truck a few times a year, but want something that can be used as an everyday vehicle because they don't want to own two separate vehicles." A Honda Civic is 20x more practical and carries 2.5x more passengers and gets 5x better mileage. Yeah, again, sorry. The TRX seats 4 people. Do I wish people would drive Civics (or smaller) vehicles instead of these monster trucks? Yes. Do I personally drive a much smaller, hybrid vehicle similar to the Civic? Yes. Have I been working remotely for 4+ years, partly for environmental reasons, to avoid driving in the first place? Yes. If you want to roll coal, fine, but just admit it. Let's not pretend this vehicle is in ANY way "practical". It's just not. I tried to be clear in my post. I do not think anybody should be using such a monstrous vehicle for mundane everyday tasks like transporting groceries. Obivously it is overkill of the highest order and a bit of a menace. But you certainly could use it for that. In that sense it is eminently practical. That's what makes vehicles like this such a potential environmental nightmare. Unlike a lot of other vehicles in the "$100,000 / 1000HP" neighborhood, people might actually use this monster as an everyday driver rather than a "garage queen."
- martin8412 5y ago
  Where would you park it? I have not been to Finland, but here in Spain it would not fit in many parking spaces. Not to mention narrow roads where they can’t physically fit

oh_sigh 5y ago

1 gallon of gas puts out 19 pounds of CO2, so this equates to about 10.5 mpg which actually sounds reasonable for a 1000 HP supertruck that weighs 7800 lbs. A stock Ford F-250 only gets 16 mpg for reference.

FastMonkey 5y ago
I'd argue it's ordinary rather than reasonable. It seems like the tax is fair, you can import a 1000hp beast for personal use and get taxed heavily, or you can import it for whatever sort of haulage you need a 1000hp pickup truck for and you're limited by the rules of other haulage trucks.
- cmeacham98 5y ago
  I think they don't mean it's a reasonable emission, they mean it's a reasonable statistic (i.e. it's likely not made up or miscalculated).
  - FastMonkey 5y ago
    I understand. On the team I'm on right now, we're trying to make some large changes, and some of that has to do with challenging assumptions. I'm just primed to see things like "10 weeks is a reasonable amount of time for Y" as a check point to ask whether it's actually reasonable, or whether we've fallen into a pattern that we've stopped questioning.
londons_explore 5y ago
Pretty much everything in Europe thats gas powered gets 50+ mpg... Or is electric... They've adapted to high fuel costs!
- mywittyname 5y ago
  You mean prices drive consumer behavior?!?!?! Amazing.
- 5y ago