> It's not help if you are violating consent of a person that has the ability to give consent. Minors and intoxicated people are some examples of people that ca

> It's not help if you are violating consent of a person that has the ability to give consent. Minors and intoxicated people are some examples of people that can't gove consent in which case their legal guardian must give consent. Nothing about anyone seeking to help a loved one not kill themselves inherently requires consent. I said nothing about invasive processes, outside of the DARPA situation where they almost certainly have the consent they need already. > The shitty thing about the tech scene is the utter disregard for consent because you know better. This is projection. > Have you actually tried to help a person in this situation? Yes. And they're still around and living their life decades later. Because they were suicidal about something that could be substantially unburdened if they would just talk. And they weren't going to talk without an intervention (which was staged initially online, as it happens). > Nothing more humiliating or pushing over the edge than your private mental struggles being exposed and well meaning assholes now made your contemplations into an issue you must act on (as in kill yourself or chicken out). Ffs! It's slavery not help what you have in mind. Your intentions don't change that fact. Suicide is not a good alternative to humiliation. If this is where you are right now, talk to someone. I'm not going to continue this discussion because of what you say in the last paragraph I quoted. But if you need help, consider asking for it.