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What citizenship status do Palestianians have by default, if not Israeli? Given that Israel doesn't recognise Palestine as a state, doesn't that obligate them t

What citizenship status do Palestianians have by default, if not Israeli? Given that Israel doesn't recognise Palestine as a state, doesn't that obligate them to confer Israeli citizenship to the residents, as they would otherwise be stateless?

throwaway2048 5y ago
There is no obligation for any state to issue citizenship to anyone, unfortunately.
- martinflack 5y ago
  There are UN conventions[1][2] on statelessness that do require the bound parties to provide citizenship under very narrow conditions, essentially to avoid a stateless person. IANAL so I don't know if they apply in this type of example. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Stateless_Persons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Reduction_of_Statelessness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Reduction_of...
  - throwaway2048 5y ago
    Not only have most states not signed this, there is no meaningful penalty for ignoring it.
- s_dev 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Stateless_Persons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta...
bhouston 5y ago
I believe that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are essentially stateless. It is similar to the South African Bantustans where you put an undesirable population so that they have a little bit of self-government so that you can justify excluding them from the electorate of the main nation, but not enough to actually be their own country, so you can essentially still manage that land.
starik36 5y ago
Palestinians have a Palestinian Authority passport that is used for international travel. Per the Oslo accords in the 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_passport#Implications_of_the_passport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_passport... Though many hold Jordanian passports.

throwaway2048 5y ago

There is no obligation for any state to issue citizenship to anyone, unfortunately.

martinflack 5y ago
There are UN conventions[1][2] on statelessness that do require the bound parties to provide citizenship under very narrow conditions, essentially to avoid a stateless person. IANAL so I don't know if they apply in this type of example. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Stateless_Persons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Reduction_of_Statelessness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Reduction_of...
- throwaway2048 5y ago
  Not only have most states not signed this, there is no meaningful penalty for ignoring it.
s_dev 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Stateless_Persons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Sta...

bhouston 5y ago

I believe that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are essentially stateless. It is similar to the South African Bantustans where you put an undesirable population so that they have a little bit of self-government so that you can justify excluding them from the electorate of the main nation, but not enough to actually be their own country, so you can essentially still manage that land.

starik36 5y ago

Palestinians have a Palestinian Authority passport that is used for international travel. Per the Oslo accords in the 90s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_passport#Implications_of_the_passport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_passport... Though many hold Jordanian passports.