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Would you use an autonomous car if the death rate increases but accident rate decreases? I figure deaths per million miles is a good stat

tshaddox 5y ago
Most people choose to use cars despite that increasing both death rate and accident rate.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >Most people choose to use cars despite that increasing both death rate and accident rate. In most of the US (not where I live, thankfully) the "choice" is use a car or stay home. Not much of a choice.
  - tshaddox 5y ago
    Sure, the fact that people choose the more appealing option doesn't mean there wasn't a choice. That's just what people do when they have multiple options: they choose the one that's best according to whatever their criteria are. And many people might make a similar choice to reclaim multiple hours per day of driving time to do other things (like sleep, work, relax, etc.) while their car drives itself.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      Absolutely. Go and move to West Memphis, TN (or, as I said, with most places in the US) and try to live without a car. Not really a choice. Which is why I live in a place with halfway-decent (well, the best in the US anyway) public transport.
      - tshaddox 5y ago
        Again, it is a choice, and the fact that you choose the better option doesn't mean it's not a choice.
        nobody9999 5y ago
        >Again, it is a choice, and the fact that you choose the better option doesn't mean it's not a choice. What's the choice? I don't have any idea what you mean
        tshaddox 5y ago
        The choice is to stay at home, where you are very unlikely to get in a car accident, or to drive a car, which greatly increased the risk of accident and death.
        nobody9999 5y ago
        >The choice is to stay at home, where you are very unlikely to get in a car accident, or to drive a car, which greatly increased the risk of accident and death. Absolutely. At least until you're fired from your job because you don't show up. Then you'll (depending on where you live) a few months to maintain that "choice" before the landlord throws you out on your ass because you "chose" not to go to work. Please.
        magikaram 5y ago
        Yet for many people, where they live isnt a choice, or their method of transport. Most of the US undeniably has poor public transport, and the only realistic means of travel for a day to day work schedule is via automobile.
telchior 5y ago
Not sure if you were asking seriously, but: personally, yes.
NovemberWhiskey 5y ago
This isn't that hard. Let's say loss of quality-adjusted life years due to accidents or something.

tshaddox 5y ago

Most people choose to use cars despite that increasing both death rate and accident rate.

nobody9999 5y ago
>Most people choose to use cars despite that increasing both death rate and accident rate. In most of the US (not where I live, thankfully) the "choice" is use a car or stay home. Not much of a choice.
- tshaddox 5y ago
  Sure, the fact that people choose the more appealing option doesn't mean there wasn't a choice. That's just what people do when they have multiple options: they choose the one that's best according to whatever their criteria are. And many people might make a similar choice to reclaim multiple hours per day of driving time to do other things (like sleep, work, relax, etc.) while their car drives itself.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    Absolutely. Go and move to West Memphis, TN (or, as I said, with most places in the US) and try to live without a car. Not really a choice. Which is why I live in a place with halfway-decent (well, the best in the US anyway) public transport.
    - tshaddox 5y ago
      Again, it is a choice, and the fact that you choose the better option doesn't mean it's not a choice.
      - nobody9999 5y ago
        >Again, it is a choice, and the fact that you choose the better option doesn't mean it's not a choice. What's the choice? I don't have any idea what you mean
        tshaddox 5y ago
        The choice is to stay at home, where you are very unlikely to get in a car accident, or to drive a car, which greatly increased the risk of accident and death.
        nobody9999 5y ago
        >The choice is to stay at home, where you are very unlikely to get in a car accident, or to drive a car, which greatly increased the risk of accident and death. Absolutely. At least until you're fired from your job because you don't show up. Then you'll (depending on where you live) a few months to maintain that "choice" before the landlord throws you out on your ass because you "chose" not to go to work. Please.
      - magikaram 5y ago
        Yet for many people, where they live isnt a choice, or their method of transport. Most of the US undeniably has poor public transport, and the only realistic means of travel for a day to day work schedule is via automobile.

telchior 5y ago

Not sure if you were asking seriously, but: personally, yes.

NovemberWhiskey 5y ago

This isn't that hard. Let's say loss of quality-adjusted life years due to accidents or something.