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It's not that I disagree with you exactly, but I think you're overgeneralising from tech. In my discipline (in the humanities) MIT is still top-notch, though ha

It's not that I disagree with you exactly, but I think you're overgeneralising from tech. In my discipline (in the humanities) MIT is still top-notch, though has never quite been on a par with Princeton. Research integrity isn't really an issue, and there's no outside or consulting income to be had, so it's all salary. Housing is complex because rich universities often own property that they let you live in for free.

blagie 5y ago
Hahaha. The humanities? Like education? Where MIT acquired a bunch of IP through fraud, lies, and sometimes intimidation, bundled it up into edX, and sold it for $800M, with money lining the pockets of well-positioned faculty members? Or Stanford? With their school of ed? Baking data to support politically-popular causes, and gaining "impact" when fraudulent research is adopted by virtue of reinforcing what teachers want to hear, with the only victims being the students? Yeah. Please. Do some research and come back another time. If you want high-integrity ed research, you can look towards ASU, WPI, or many other schools one tier down in brand, and two tiers up in integrity.
- cardiology-fat 5y ago
  No, not education. You guessed wrong about which discipline, and then went on a crazy rant... not a good look for you. There is one of the humanities disciplines that MIT has been excellent in for several decades... if you don't know which one it is, then you don't know as much as you think you do. (As I said, 'integrity' isn't really an issue in my discipline. Outside possible plagiarism, I guess. Another way in which your rant was a bit silly.) Also, ASU and WPI one tier down in brand from MIT? Dream on, try three or four tiers.
  - blagie 5y ago
    For your reference, tiers are traditionally defined by Carnegie. There are around 5000 schools in the US. A couple hundred are in the top two tiers, R1 and R2. Here is a list: https://cehd.gmu.edu/assets/docs/faculty/tenurepromotion/institutions-research-categories.pdf https://cehd.gmu.edu/assets/docs/faculty/tenurepromotion/ins... MIT, ASU, and WPI are all on this list. MIT and ASU are both R1, while WPI is R2. As a footnote, elitism isn't a good look either, at least in 2022. I had that look when I was affiliated with the elites, and I believed it too.
    - cardiology-fat 5y ago
      You started out talking about '#1 university brand', and now you want to pretend you mean the Carnegie categories? Come off it. Not only are they much too coarse-grained, but they're also (by design) US-centric. I'm at somewhere way less prominent than either, but even I can see that there are way more than 1 prestige tiers between MIT and ASU. But of far greater concern is your bizarre condescending tone. You even told me to do my research. Are you an antivaxxer?

blagie 5y ago

Hahaha. The humanities? Like education? Where MIT acquired a bunch of IP through fraud, lies, and sometimes intimidation, bundled it up into edX, and sold it for $800M, with money lining the pockets of well-positioned faculty members? Or Stanford? With their school of ed? Baking data to support politically-popular causes, and gaining "impact" when fraudulent research is adopted by virtue of reinforcing what teachers want to hear, with the only victims being the students? Yeah. Please. Do some research and come back another time. If you want high-integrity ed research, you can look towards ASU, WPI, or many other schools one tier down in brand, and two tiers up in integrity.

cardiology-fat 5y ago
No, not education. You guessed wrong about which discipline, and then went on a crazy rant... not a good look for you. There is one of the humanities disciplines that MIT has been excellent in for several decades... if you don't know which one it is, then you don't know as much as you think you do. (As I said, 'integrity' isn't really an issue in my discipline. Outside possible plagiarism, I guess. Another way in which your rant was a bit silly.) Also, ASU and WPI one tier down in brand from MIT? Dream on, try three or four tiers.
- blagie 5y ago
  For your reference, tiers are traditionally defined by Carnegie. There are around 5000 schools in the US. A couple hundred are in the top two tiers, R1 and R2. Here is a list: https://cehd.gmu.edu/assets/docs/faculty/tenurepromotion/institutions-research-categories.pdf https://cehd.gmu.edu/assets/docs/faculty/tenurepromotion/ins... MIT, ASU, and WPI are all on this list. MIT and ASU are both R1, while WPI is R2. As a footnote, elitism isn't a good look either, at least in 2022. I had that look when I was affiliated with the elites, and I believed it too.
  - cardiology-fat 5y ago
    You started out talking about '#1 university brand', and now you want to pretend you mean the Carnegie categories? Come off it. Not only are they much too coarse-grained, but they're also (by design) US-centric. I'm at somewhere way less prominent than either, but even I can see that there are way more than 1 prestige tiers between MIT and ASU. But of far greater concern is your bizarre condescending tone. You even told me to do my research. Are you an antivaxxer?