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Persecution complex is in high gear in Russian media, they obviously aren't going to give the full context of Facebook's position. But if you are western in thi

by sidibe 5y ago

Persecution complex is in high gear in Russian media, they obviously aren't going to give the full context of Facebook's position. But if you are western in this site or Russian curious enough to be here, let's drop the idea that it's all Russophobia and Westerners hating all Russians. No one here believes you and it's all seemed pretty clear that everything is happening strictly in response to what is happening in Ukraine Now we can debate about whether these policies are bad and will backfire in Russia where everything is easily sold as being anti-Russian people, but I'm done reading all the woe is me comments from people who absolutely know better about how it's a persecution of Russians based on hate. I do think these policies are interpreted as anti-Russian racism internally. Looking at vc.ru (Russian HN) they are scooping up the racism angle at face value, they don't like Putin but enemies 1 and 2 right now are Ukraine and the West. Posts blaming Russia for anything are heavily down voted and responded to with Putin's talking points even though they dislike the man. Don't know if the West should lay off with some of the sanctions and boycotts though, opinion might be the same without them

mensetmanusman 5y ago
It’s amazing to me, because at this point I probably would not be able to tell the difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian if I met one for the first time and there was no speaking involved.
- xdennis 5y ago
  The Russians are the ones with a white armband and use vehicles with a white Z on them. The Ukrainians are the ones with a yellow armband and use vehicles with a blue/yellow flag. How their faces look and what language they speak has nothing to do with it.
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> let's drop the idea that it's all Russophobia and Westerners hating all Russians I’ve transformed from a Putin critic / Russia advocate to a full-blown Russia hawk in the last *checks calendar* two weeks. But even I can see some people conflating the Russian state with the Russian people. This isn’t an argument against debilitating sanctions. They should be ratcheted up to energy, and start looking at Chinese complicity, too. But I’ve seen (albeit limited) calls for boycotting Russian restaurants in America, which is pretty close to anti-Russian sentiment. (Of course, that sentiment is reactionary. It never existed prior to the invasion. I’m not sure its backers could name their local Russian, or for that matter Ukrainian, restaurant.)
future-garten 5y ago
Ok, let's take those russian it-people which have migrated in recent two weeks to the nearby countries (which just happen to be in this list made by facebook/meta). Yep, now they are in these very countries. And yep in these countries Meta has allowed hate-posting. Wouldn't it result in some discomfort, unease, prejudice? Quick-note: indeed to the best of my knowledge all people involved in outsourcing are migrating to the countries where hate-posting has been allowed Of course, everyone can draw a line, no doubt there, no troubles, no xenophobia expected...

by sidibe 5y ago

mensetmanusman 5y ago

It’s amazing to me, because at this point I probably would not be able to tell the difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian if I met one for the first time and there was no speaking involved.

xdennis 5y ago
The Russians are the ones with a white armband and use vehicles with a white Z on them. The Ukrainians are the ones with a yellow armband and use vehicles with a blue/yellow flag. How their faces look and what language they speak has nothing to do with it.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> let's drop the idea that it's all Russophobia and Westerners hating all Russians I’ve transformed from a Putin critic / Russia advocate to a full-blown Russia hawk in the last *checks calendar* two weeks. But even I can see some people conflating the Russian state with the Russian people. This isn’t an argument against debilitating sanctions. They should be ratcheted up to energy, and start looking at Chinese complicity, too. But I’ve seen (albeit limited) calls for boycotting Russian restaurants in America, which is pretty close to anti-Russian sentiment. (Of course, that sentiment is reactionary. It never existed prior to the invasion. I’m not sure its backers could name their local Russian, or for that matter Ukrainian, restaurant.)

future-garten 5y ago

Ok, let's take those russian it-people which have migrated in recent two weeks to the nearby countries (which just happen to be in this list made by facebook/meta). Yep, now they are in these very countries. And yep in these countries Meta has allowed hate-posting. Wouldn't it result in some discomfort, unease, prejudice? Quick-note: indeed to the best of my knowledge all people involved in outsourcing are migrating to the countries where hate-posting has been allowed Of course, everyone can draw a line, no doubt there, no troubles, no xenophobia expected...