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This still requires a dedicated monitor connection to each box with a hardware or source switch, right? Or a screen per device? That is, the KVM (in the VGA d

This still requires a dedicated monitor connection to each box with a hardware or source switch, right? Or a screen per device? That is, the KVM (in the VGA days) used to switch the mouse, keyboard, and video source so a single monitor, keyboard, and mouse switches across devices. But barrier doesn't try to solve that part, I think. Modern HDMI KVM hardware switches seem rather expensive; anyone found a good way to "switch" the monitors as well as keyboard and mouse?

durazabu 5y ago
No need for additional hardware. Take two Barrier-connected computers, the mouse can travel from one screen to the other. When using the keyboard, it inputs on the monitor with the mouse focus. Since it's UI based you need a screen per device yes.
falcolas 5y ago
There are some monitors which act as a KVM for their USB ports. They're rare and hard to find, but they exist. One (expensive) example: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-30-usb-c-hub-monitor-u3023e/apd/210-bdsn/monitors-monitor-accessories https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-30-usb-c-hub...
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torstenvl 5y ago
I use a multipairing mouse and keyboard (Logitech MX Keys and MX Anywhere) and have my personal laptop connect via Thunderbolt → DVI and work via HDMI. It means I have to press three buttons to switch but it's still pretty convenient, without the expense of a dedicated KVM solution.
taffit 5y ago
Some more modern monitors can also be switched by software. I personally use a laptop with an external monitor that is also connected to my desktop. Whenever I need to switch from laptop to desktop (using Barrier or Mouse without Borders on Windows) I then invoke the magic of ControlMyMonitor by the wonderful NirSoft [1] using an Autohotkey-shortcut. This way I can share my monitor with the desktop and laptop. Sharing the keyboard and mouse works with Barrier. I provided some short instructions in an SO-answer [2]. [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html [2] https://superuser.com/a/1556618/299215 https://superuser.com/a/1556618/299215
- mwexler 5y ago
  Control my monitor is a great find. NirSoft is just full of treasures.
vhodges 5y ago
You can switch video inputs using dcc (eg https://www.ddcutil.com/ https://www.ddcutil.com/) so you could bind a hotkey to do that or if Synergy/Barrier/Input-leap can be scripted it could do that part too. There is also a utility that watches for usb device change events on a cheap USB keyboard/mouse (no video) switcher that does the video automatically, but I had it lock up the usb stack on my Linux machine and never really got it to work reliably enough. I use one of the cheap usb KM switches and changing the input on the monitor manually. Still kind of sucks, but better than nothing.
- 2c2c2c 5y ago
  bumped into reading about ddc a couple times this month now. does this have support across wide number of monitors? i like high refresh rate monitors and want to switch between a macbook and windows pc quickly depending on home/work. seems like a lot of kvms are going to either choke, not have usbc inputs
  - vhodges 5y ago
    Not an expert in this by any means, but I think all modern monitors have support for this (eg brightness controls, etc from an applet). Monitors are named, so it supports multiple monitors too.
uberduper 5y ago
Modern hdmi (I'd recommend dp versions instead of hdmi) kvm switches aren't very expensive. I'm using a 4 machine hdmi/keyboard/mouse/usb switch that was <$300. They make dual monitor ones too. Tho I just use a cheap hdmi switch for my secondary monitor because it doesn't emulate a connection to the PC while a different input is selected. This allows me to extend my active desktop to two monitors, or show a different machine on the secondary monitor. I also use barrier for this two host configuration.
rambambram 5y ago
Have been using hardware KVM switches (HDMI/USB) from Belkin and some unknown brands from AliExpress since years. I don't remember the price exactly, but it was way under $100. I even contacted the Chinese manufacturer to change the PCB for me (I wanted the ports repositioned) and they did a very good and quick job for under $300. I'm talking dual computers in this case, not more.
octobus2021 5y ago
Depends on your price range I guess. You can find iogear/belkin HDMI 4 port switches for a bit under $100. Generic ones will be even less (maybe even around $50). I personally use DVI KVM from iogear (GCS1104) which cost me about $130, one of my machines is a gaming rig with Nvidia card and it works flawlessly.

durazabu 5y ago

No need for additional hardware. Take two Barrier-connected computers, the mouse can travel from one screen to the other. When using the keyboard, it inputs on the monitor with the mouse focus. Since it's UI based you need a screen per device yes.

falcolas 5y ago

There are some monitors which act as a KVM for their USB ports. They're rare and hard to find, but they exist. One (expensive) example: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-30-usb-c-hub-monitor-u3023e/apd/210-bdsn/monitors-monitor-accessories https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-30-usb-c-hub...

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torstenvl 5y ago

I use a multipairing mouse and keyboard (Logitech MX Keys and MX Anywhere) and have my personal laptop connect via Thunderbolt → DVI and work via HDMI. It means I have to press three buttons to switch but it's still pretty convenient, without the expense of a dedicated KVM solution.

taffit 5y ago

Some more modern monitors can also be switched by software. I personally use a laptop with an external monitor that is also connected to my desktop. Whenever I need to switch from laptop to desktop (using Barrier or Mouse without Borders on Windows) I then invoke the magic of ControlMyMonitor by the wonderful NirSoft [1] using an Autohotkey-shortcut. This way I can share my monitor with the desktop and laptop. Sharing the keyboard and mouse works with Barrier. I provided some short instructions in an SO-answer [2]. [1] https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/control_my_monitor.html [2] https://superuser.com/a/1556618/299215 https://superuser.com/a/1556618/299215

mwexler 5y ago
Control my monitor is a great find. NirSoft is just full of treasures.

vhodges 5y ago

You can switch video inputs using dcc (eg https://www.ddcutil.com/ https://www.ddcutil.com/) so you could bind a hotkey to do that or if Synergy/Barrier/Input-leap can be scripted it could do that part too. There is also a utility that watches for usb device change events on a cheap USB keyboard/mouse (no video) switcher that does the video automatically, but I had it lock up the usb stack on my Linux machine and never really got it to work reliably enough. I use one of the cheap usb KM switches and changing the input on the monitor manually. Still kind of sucks, but better than nothing.

2c2c2c 5y ago
bumped into reading about ddc a couple times this month now. does this have support across wide number of monitors? i like high refresh rate monitors and want to switch between a macbook and windows pc quickly depending on home/work. seems like a lot of kvms are going to either choke, not have usbc inputs
- vhodges 5y ago
  Not an expert in this by any means, but I think all modern monitors have support for this (eg brightness controls, etc from an applet). Monitors are named, so it supports multiple monitors too.

uberduper 5y ago

Modern hdmi (I'd recommend dp versions instead of hdmi) kvm switches aren't very expensive. I'm using a 4 machine hdmi/keyboard/mouse/usb switch that was <$300. They make dual monitor ones too. Tho I just use a cheap hdmi switch for my secondary monitor because it doesn't emulate a connection to the PC while a different input is selected. This allows me to extend my active desktop to two monitors, or show a different machine on the secondary monitor. I also use barrier for this two host configuration.

rambambram 5y ago

Have been using hardware KVM switches (HDMI/USB) from Belkin and some unknown brands from AliExpress since years. I don't remember the price exactly, but it was way under $100. I even contacted the Chinese manufacturer to change the PCB for me (I wanted the ports repositioned) and they did a very good and quick job for under $300. I'm talking dual computers in this case, not more.

octobus2021 5y ago

Depends on your price range I guess. You can find iogear/belkin HDMI 4 port switches for a bit under $100. Generic ones will be even less (maybe even around $50). I personally use DVI KVM from iogear (GCS1104) which cost me about $130, one of my machines is a gaming rig with Nvidia card and it works flawlessly.