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Russia looks set to remove trademark protection and has already removed patent protection from JetBrains (along with basically the entire west) - could be relat

Russia looks set to remove trademark protection and has already removed patent protection from JetBrains (along with basically the entire west) - could be related to why now rather than earlier: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/03/09/russia-allows-patent-theft/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/03/09/russia-al...

sam_lowry_ 5y ago
It's not about trademarks, patents or licenses. JetBrains made a public statement against the war in Ukraine, now they fear for the safety of the employees left in Russia.
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- Throwawayaerlei 5y ago
  Being in a rough neighborhood, "founded in Prague, Czech Republic, 22 years ago" their position about Russia's "special military operation" is more than the usual vapid posturing by entities with little or no skin in the game, but you would think they would have thought about their vulnerable employees still in Russia before publicizing that position. Makes me wonder what else they might do purely for "political" reasons; another reason I'll be sticking with my FOSS development tools.
  - jen20 5y ago
    > another reason I'll be sticking with my FOSS development tools. Here is the repository for IntelliJ [1]. It has an Apache 2.0 license. That is - by any definition - FOSS. It’s clear you have some form of agenda with “political reasons” mentioned. Why not stop being coy and spell it out? [1]: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
    - isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
      While he was a bit of a bellend, Intellij Community is a faint shadow of what you get in the professional-grade tools which are closed source.
      - phillipcarter 5y ago
        Why does that matter? I am personally happy that so much of what they make is free and OSS, and they are entitled to a business for other things too.
  - throwuxiytayq 5y ago
    Given the recent many displays of Russian government incompetence, I doubt that they will connect the dots fast enough to repress people like them on an individual level (or at least I hope so). It seems they have plenty of actual protestors in the streets to arrest. Should keep them busy for a while. This could be, in fact, the best moment for JetBrains to act.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  There are political risks to staying as well. They are quite a high profile company within Russia, the government could walk in and demand access to servers or cut them off from the internet in retaliation to the sanctions.
  - phillipcarter 5y ago
    Are they? For a developer audience, sure. But I think there's a reason why they were considered "obscure" but past reporting regarding SolarWinds. They make amazing products, but developer tools aren't exactly a thing most people know about.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago

It's not about trademarks, patents or licenses. JetBrains made a public statement against the war in Ukraine, now they fear for the safety of the employees left in Russia.

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Throwawayaerlei 5y ago
Being in a rough neighborhood, "founded in Prague, Czech Republic, 22 years ago" their position about Russia's "special military operation" is more than the usual vapid posturing by entities with little or no skin in the game, but you would think they would have thought about their vulnerable employees still in Russia before publicizing that position. Makes me wonder what else they might do purely for "political" reasons; another reason I'll be sticking with my FOSS development tools.
- jen20 5y ago
  > another reason I'll be sticking with my FOSS development tools. Here is the repository for IntelliJ [1]. It has an Apache 2.0 license. That is - by any definition - FOSS. It’s clear you have some form of agenda with “political reasons” mentioned. Why not stop being coy and spell it out? [1]: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community
  - isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
    While he was a bit of a bellend, Intellij Community is a faint shadow of what you get in the professional-grade tools which are closed source.
    - phillipcarter 5y ago
      Why does that matter? I am personally happy that so much of what they make is free and OSS, and they are entitled to a business for other things too.
- throwuxiytayq 5y ago
  Given the recent many displays of Russian government incompetence, I doubt that they will connect the dots fast enough to repress people like them on an individual level (or at least I hope so). It seems they have plenty of actual protestors in the streets to arrest. Should keep them busy for a while. This could be, in fact, the best moment for JetBrains to act.
tonyedgecombe 5y ago
There are political risks to staying as well. They are quite a high profile company within Russia, the government could walk in and demand access to servers or cut them off from the internet in retaliation to the sanctions.
- phillipcarter 5y ago
  Are they? For a developer audience, sure. But I think there's a reason why they were considered "obscure" but past reporting regarding SolarWinds. They make amazing products, but developer tools aren't exactly a thing most people know about.