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Who gets to see the telemetry?

tapoxi 5y ago
In Massachusetts, access to this telemetry by local repair shops is required by our new right-to-repair law. Some manufactures have made a fuss, but hopefully other states follow.
oliwarner 5y ago
Data about how I drive my car? Laughs in GDPR
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  GDPR might have some teeth if it was actually seriously enforced. That's yet to be the case.
  - oliwarner 5y ago
    https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ Sorry, is several million Euros in fines this year, a billion over its lifetime not toothy enough for you? They're going after big players, tiny companies, even individuals. From personal experience, getting access to data about me is usually fast, demanding they delete it appears to work, and my own complaints to the national regulatory body have resulted in me getting my own way. GDPR is great.
    - Nextgrid 5y ago
      > a billion over its lifetime not toothy enough for you > They're going after big players Don't you see the oxymoron in here? A billion is a non-event for a single one of the big players making their money on stalking, and you're saying that a billion over its lifetime (4 years) across all companies is toothy? Come on. > my own complaints to the national regulatory body have resulted in me getting my own way. I'm glad it works for you, and I guess you must live in a country where the regulator isn't completely useless. In my case, in the UK with the ICO, the best I managed to get out of them is a few letters which the company promptly ignored just like they ignored my own query, and this non-resolution still required significant admin work for me (just so they don't have an excuse to close your complaint on a technicality - despite being handed evidence of a GDPR breach).
- stavros 5y ago
  I love that I might just be able to withdraw consent on my new car, instead of fishing around in the engine block to cut the antenna. Then again, I'm probably going to anyway, for good measure.

In Massachusetts, access to this telemetry by local repair shops is required by our new right-to-repair law. Some manufactures have made a fuss, but hopefully other states follow.

oliwarner 5y ago

Data about how I drive my car? Laughs in GDPR

Nextgrid 5y ago
GDPR might have some teeth if it was actually seriously enforced. That's yet to be the case.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ Sorry, is several million Euros in fines this year, a billion over its lifetime not toothy enough for you? They're going after big players, tiny companies, even individuals. From personal experience, getting access to data about me is usually fast, demanding they delete it appears to work, and my own complaints to the national regulatory body have resulted in me getting my own way. GDPR is great.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    > a billion over its lifetime not toothy enough for you > They're going after big players Don't you see the oxymoron in here? A billion is a non-event for a single one of the big players making their money on stalking, and you're saying that a billion over its lifetime (4 years) across all companies is toothy? Come on. > my own complaints to the national regulatory body have resulted in me getting my own way. I'm glad it works for you, and I guess you must live in a country where the regulator isn't completely useless. In my case, in the UK with the ICO, the best I managed to get out of them is a few letters which the company promptly ignored just like they ignored my own query, and this non-resolution still required significant admin work for me (just so they don't have an excuse to close your complaint on a technicality - despite being handed evidence of a GDPR breach).
stavros 5y ago
I love that I might just be able to withdraw consent on my new car, instead of fishing around in the engine block to cut the antenna. Then again, I'm probably going to anyway, for good measure.