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“..because they take resources and knowledge to manufacture, and are physical objects that can be tracked. Taking these away by law works.” Sorry but it doesn’

“..because they take resources and knowledge to manufacture, and are physical objects that can be tracked. Taking these away by law works.” Sorry but it doesn’t even work for physical objects. Guns are completely illegal in some cities (NYC, SF and Chicago, unless you have connections), so I suppose there’s no gun crime there, right? Or, research compliance rates when states have retroactively made certain firearms illegal and asked for citizens to turn them in or face the risk of criminal charges. The War on Drugs has also been highly ineffective at preventing motivated individuals from obtaining certain physical objects.

usrbinbash 5y ago
> so I suppose there’s no gun crime there, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r... It works when implemented country-wide. Countries like Germany have much stricter gun laws, and as a result lower gun violence. Obviously, the method doesn't work, when someone who wants a gun can just drive a couple hours and get one at some gun show without even leaving the country.
ipnon 5y ago
Good point, but guns are legal in NYC. If you have a dangerous job like a security guard, you can get an open carry permit. If you have no special circumstances, you can own a gun in your home. The gun can be transported to other destinations like a shooting range, your business, or other homes, as long as the gun is locked in a container during transit. Until recently you could only carry the gun between your home and a shooting ranges within the city, but the law was expanded due to a current lawsuit against the City. edit: Most gun crimes in the city are done with illegal guns, 74% of which come from out of state. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418208/guns-new-york-iron-pipeline https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418208/...

usrbinbash 5y ago

> so I suppose there’s no gun crime there, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r... It works when implemented country-wide. Countries like Germany have much stricter gun laws, and as a result lower gun violence. Obviously, the method doesn't work, when someone who wants a gun can just drive a couple hours and get one at some gun show without even leaving the country.

ipnon 5y ago

Good point, but guns are legal in NYC. If you have a dangerous job like a security guard, you can get an open carry permit. If you have no special circumstances, you can own a gun in your home. The gun can be transported to other destinations like a shooting range, your business, or other homes, as long as the gun is locked in a container during transit. Until recently you could only carry the gun between your home and a shooting ranges within the city, but the law was expanded due to a current lawsuit against the City. edit: Most gun crimes in the city are done with illegal guns, 74% of which come from out of state. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418208/guns-new-york-iron-pipeline https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418208/...