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Obviously the problem here is not whether speech promoting violence is allowed or not. Good arguments could be made either way. The problem is that unelected c

Obviously the problem here is not whether speech promoting violence is allowed or not. Good arguments could be made either way. The problem is that unelected college dropouts get to decide. This time they may deign to allow the unwashed masses a voice. Next time maybe not.

Ambolia 5y ago
I think the most blatant the censorship and editorialization get, the better for everybody. It is a shame that at this point of the internet we are still depending on 3-4 companies through which most of the content that gets generated passes. The technology for content distribution in a distributed fashion has existed for decades, the only thing that is missing is a clever way to build network effects over that technology. We have a couple dozen available technologies to communicate with people without depending on those companies. But while most of them make it very easy to communicate 1-to-1, or 1-to-few, it is very difficult to grow those networks much bigger than that.
- nonrandomstring 5y ago
  If only we had some interconnection between those networks, a kind of "internet" of sorts :) I am being only a little facetious - probably the way to displace centralised social networks is not to wait for one alternative federated/distributed successor, but to evolve at the protocol level with a social network interface format (SNIFF?) Some kind of standard for serialising, transporting, filtering and requesting whole subgraphs of posts, threads, etc that can propagate in an NNTP fashion - that would go a good way towards solving the problem that we _want_ dissemination actors to remain small but many.
  - Ambolia 5y ago
    Nostr [1] seems interesting. I don't trust the idea of "relays" on the long term but it seems like it should be possible to develop alternative ways to distribute the content, and it can be a way to bootstrap the network in the short term. Though at this moment it seems a bit too bare-bones, and it would need some interesting application built on top of it to make it usable. [1] https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr
vixen99 5y ago
You forgot to include a failed British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions.
- nonrandomstring 5y ago
  > You forgot to include a failed British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions. Did you mean to say "You forgot to include a British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions."

Ambolia 5y ago

I think the most blatant the censorship and editorialization get, the better for everybody. It is a shame that at this point of the internet we are still depending on 3-4 companies through which most of the content that gets generated passes. The technology for content distribution in a distributed fashion has existed for decades, the only thing that is missing is a clever way to build network effects over that technology. We have a couple dozen available technologies to communicate with people without depending on those companies. But while most of them make it very easy to communicate 1-to-1, or 1-to-few, it is very difficult to grow those networks much bigger than that.

nonrandomstring 5y ago
If only we had some interconnection between those networks, a kind of "internet" of sorts :) I am being only a little facetious - probably the way to displace centralised social networks is not to wait for one alternative federated/distributed successor, but to evolve at the protocol level with a social network interface format (SNIFF?) Some kind of standard for serialising, transporting, filtering and requesting whole subgraphs of posts, threads, etc that can propagate in an NNTP fashion - that would go a good way towards solving the problem that we _want_ dissemination actors to remain small but many.
- Ambolia 5y ago
  Nostr [1] seems interesting. I don't trust the idea of "relays" on the long term but it seems like it should be possible to develop alternative ways to distribute the content, and it can be a way to bootstrap the network in the short term. Though at this moment it seems a bit too bare-bones, and it would need some interesting application built on top of it to make it usable. [1] https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr https://github.com/fiatjaf/nostr

vixen99 5y ago

You forgot to include a failed British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions.

nonrandomstring 5y ago
> You forgot to include a failed British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions. Did you mean to say "You forgot to include a British politician as the arbiter-in-chief of those decisions."