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I may agree only in small part, just because I know Russian a lot more than then the rest of the world. For example, Alexander Prokoudine[0,1], author LibreArt

I may agree only in small part, just because I know Russian a lot more than then the rest of the world. For example, Alexander Prokoudine[0,1], author LibreArt/LibreGraphicsWorld[1] magazine (and contributor to GIMP and other FLOSS projetcs), even it looks like supporting Ukraine, internally for Russian speaking Linux-users auditory he joked about Crimea (Ukraine's sovereign territory occupied by Russia since February 20, 2014) that “[Russian] should give it back to [Arnold] Schwarzenegger:)” in 2015.[2] Russian in whole should respond to do nothing to prevent actual war in last 8 years. Even more, all Russian has 22 years to stop Putin. No Russian should escape Russia and its sanctions — instead they all should fight with own Russian gov, as hard, as Ukrainian did it at Revolution of Dignity[3] in Ukraine, just before Russia started Russo-Ukrainian War[4] since February 20, 2014. [0] https://twitter.com/ https://twitter.com/ [1] https://twitter.com/lgworld https://twitter.com/lgworld [2] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

rbanffy 5y ago
We are all the result of decades of exposure to our own cultural environments. I grew up in Brazil, in a very racist, repressive, and misogynistic society, under a dictatorship, and I still have to police myself to avoid falling into the traps that were indoctrinated into my self. Each and every day I have to stop myself, take a step back, and actively decide to be a better person than the one I was raised to be. That guy may be an a*hole, but I wouldn’t say isolating him will help drive the realisation he’s wrong and hurting others.
- app4soft 5y ago
  > That guy may be an a*hole, but I wouldn’t say isolating him will help drive the realisation he’s wrong and hurting others. Guess, You might just know nothing about Russian terror.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    I know, but how many Russians would support it if they had the means to stop it? Were they informed of what was happening? Stalin’s Soviet Union was not a democracy. We don’t blame the German people for the Holocaust either.
    - app4soft 5y ago
      > I know, but how many Russians would support it if they had the means to stop it? Were they informed of what was happening? To be honest, they has 8 years to learn something from 2014, but Russian propaganda catches them just via TV. There was Internet in last 8 years, and years earlier, but Russian did nothing serious to stop actual invasion. Nw, when they see that their Visa/MasterCard/PayPal does not work & Russia's gov blocked USD operations, they might understand something. I has a friend, he is policemen working in Ukrainian Police in my city. He also has a brother, which is married with Russian girl. This brother moved to wife's home in Rostov region of Russia and now he is living there for less than 10 years. On the first day (Feb 24, 2022 aka Day1) after first shelling all around Ukraine my friend policemen called to brother living in Russia to talk — brother in Russia repeatedly talking that "Russia was attacked by Ukraine!" — that was how propaganda already wins in Russia. Even mother, who I know too, tried to talk with her son actually in Russia, son living in Russia repeated that "You [Ukrainians] attacked us [he already recognized himself as Russian]". There are a lot of such stories from families I know, in just one single city, and a lot more in all other cities in Ukraine, in the first days. All such talks ends where Ukrainian families tired & angry fully blocks their Russian relatives phone numbers. Of course, there was stories where relatives living in Russia fully understand what is going on, but even them can't do nothing just because Russia is actually a jail for all of them. Keeping Internet open for Russian would not help Russian to organize at all. Today Russia started isolate own Internet segment from inside - Russia's gov revealed own root certificate which should be.[0,1] All servers which would not install this root cert would be locked and/or DDoS'ed by Russia's gov cyber forces. [0] https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20220311061258/https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 http://web.archive.org/web/20220311061258/https://www.openne...
- ArcturianDeath 5y ago

rbanffy 5y ago

We are all the result of decades of exposure to our own cultural environments. I grew up in Brazil, in a very racist, repressive, and misogynistic society, under a dictatorship, and I still have to police myself to avoid falling into the traps that were indoctrinated into my self. Each and every day I have to stop myself, take a step back, and actively decide to be a better person than the one I was raised to be. That guy may be an a*hole, but I wouldn’t say isolating him will help drive the realisation he’s wrong and hurting others.

app4soft 5y ago
> That guy may be an a*hole, but I wouldn’t say isolating him will help drive the realisation he’s wrong and hurting others. Guess, You might just know nothing about Russian terror.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
- rbanffy 5y ago
  I know, but how many Russians would support it if they had the means to stop it? Were they informed of what was happening? Stalin’s Soviet Union was not a democracy. We don’t blame the German people for the Holocaust either.
  - app4soft 5y ago
    > I know, but how many Russians would support it if they had the means to stop it? Were they informed of what was happening? To be honest, they has 8 years to learn something from 2014, but Russian propaganda catches them just via TV. There was Internet in last 8 years, and years earlier, but Russian did nothing serious to stop actual invasion. Nw, when they see that their Visa/MasterCard/PayPal does not work & Russia's gov blocked USD operations, they might understand something. I has a friend, he is policemen working in Ukrainian Police in my city. He also has a brother, which is married with Russian girl. This brother moved to wife's home in Rostov region of Russia and now he is living there for less than 10 years. On the first day (Feb 24, 2022 aka Day1) after first shelling all around Ukraine my friend policemen called to brother living in Russia to talk — brother in Russia repeatedly talking that "Russia was attacked by Ukraine!" — that was how propaganda already wins in Russia. Even mother, who I know too, tried to talk with her son actually in Russia, son living in Russia repeated that "You [Ukrainians] attacked us [he already recognized himself as Russian]". There are a lot of such stories from families I know, in just one single city, and a lot more in all other cities in Ukraine, in the first days. All such talks ends where Ukrainian families tired & angry fully blocks their Russian relatives phone numbers. Of course, there was stories where relatives living in Russia fully understand what is going on, but even them can't do nothing just because Russia is actually a jail for all of them. Keeping Internet open for Russian would not help Russian to organize at all. Today Russia started isolate own Internet segment from inside - Russia's gov revealed own root certificate which should be.[0,1] All servers which would not install this root cert would be locked and/or DDoS'ed by Russia's gov cyber forces. [0] https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20220311061258/https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=56830 http://web.archive.org/web/20220311061258/https://www.openne...
ArcturianDeath 5y ago