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Calling that thing bread is disgusting by itself...

by Foobar8568 5y ago

cercatrova 5y ago
White bread is delicious, I wouldn't eat a PB&J on sourdough for example.
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Then again I wouldn't qualify peanut butter and jelly as sandwich, but as cake... Specially if the bread is sweet too...
  - Chris2048 5y ago
    I wouldn't say the contents change what it is - a sandwich is a filling between slices of bread, nothing states it must be savoury, even though they often are. Jam, honey and (mashed) banana are also sandwich fillings. That said, there is no way it would qualify as cake, which would require a much sweeter and thicker batter - bread isn't the same.
  - khazhoux 5y ago
    PB&J is a sandwich. This is not in dispute.
    - beaconstudios 5y ago
      American food all round is weirdly sweet to European palates. PB&J as a sandwich is pretty out there from a UK perspective. The sweetest sandwich ingredient we typically use is honey bacon, and that's the exception to the rule.
      - Auracle 5y ago
        There’s a reason PB&J is mostly a kid’s food in the US. As an adult, it can indeed be too sweet. I had some awesome homemade jam for a while that was way more tart that sweet and I was able to use that to make some pretty good ones. I wish I could find similar stuff in grocery stores. I don’t think a culture that has things such as the cheese and pickle sandwich should really judge though. Or even a regular cheese sandwich. You’re so close! Just grill it.
      - willcipriano 5y ago
        The British should be careful to not throw stones from their glass kitchen.
        beaconstudios 5y ago
        Hey, I'm well aware that British food is very bland and beige for mainland European standards! It's a good thing we've developed a strong culture of culinary fusion to compensate for that - it's not all chips and mushy peas any more, we have our own remixes of many culinary transitions, especially Indian, Chinese, and Italian.
        willcipriano 5y ago
        If you can use "we have food from elsewhere" as an argument, the nation of immigrants has you beat again.
        beaconstudios 5y ago
        beat? I didn't realise it was a competition. American food is just very sweet compared to European food. You Americans are always so competitive about inane stuff. Also, there's a distinct difference between "we have food from elsewhere" and fusion food. There are specifically British-Indian and British-Italian dishes. I know that's the case with Italian-American and Chinese-American fusion food too - it's also sweeter, because yet again, American food is sweeter than European food.
        kaishiro 5y ago
        America is a big, diverse place. I'm not even sure what food you're talking about when you say "American food".
        beaconstudios 5y ago
        Well yeah, but just as "British food" means universals like fish & chips or a Sunday roast, with subcategories like Welsh or Scottish or Yorkshire-specific foods, there's a broader "American food" category with other subcategories that don't necessarily fit the bill. Creole food is one of my favourite cuisines and isn't over-sweet, for example. But so much American food just tastes over-sweetened to me when I was just eating random things from the supermarket or takeaways or restaurants on my various trips over. Pizzas, drinks, anything involving bread, breakfasts, that sort of thing. Obviously there are exceptions but it's something that really stood out to me. Even mass-market food with direct equivalences (McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Mountain Dew) that we have over here, were much sweeter in the US.
      - dagw 5y ago
        The sweetest sandwich ingredient we typically use is honey bacon It's been almost 15 years since I last actually lived in UK, but marmalade was certainly quite popular both for breakfast and tea.
        Symbiote 5y ago
        Marmalade (and jam) is generally spread on toast for breakfast, rather than used in sandwiches.
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        beaconstudios 5y ago
        Oh yeah, marmalade is great - but breakfast is often sweet in the UK with things like marmalade or jam on toast, porridge with honey, or continental breakfast (pain au chocolat, croissants). Sandwiches, on the other hand, are a lunch food and rarely if ever sweet.
    - Symbiote 5y ago
      A jam sandwich is what a British parent might serve a young child when, for whatever reason (illness, continued tantrums etc) they can't get them to eat anything else, or when they can't really afford much else. I doubt I've eaten one since I was about 12 years old. I thought PB&J sandwiches took the same place in the USA, but it seems they're eaten more routinely, including by adults. They obviously aren't cakes, but if I were to position them in a buffet it would be right next to the cakes.

Calling that thing bread is disgusting by itself...

cercatrova 5y ago

White bread is delicious, I wouldn't eat a PB&J on sourdough for example.

Ekaros 5y ago
Then again I wouldn't qualify peanut butter and jelly as sandwich, but as cake... Specially if the bread is sweet too...
- Chris2048 5y ago
  I wouldn't say the contents change what it is - a sandwich is a filling between slices of bread, nothing states it must be savoury, even though they often are. Jam, honey and (mashed) banana are also sandwich fillings. That said, there is no way it would qualify as cake, which would require a much sweeter and thicker batter - bread isn't the same.
- khazhoux 5y ago
  PB&J is a sandwich. This is not in dispute.
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    American food all round is weirdly sweet to European palates. PB&J as a sandwich is pretty out there from a UK perspective. The sweetest sandwich ingredient we typically use is honey bacon, and that's the exception to the rule.
    - Auracle 5y ago
      There’s a reason PB&J is mostly a kid’s food in the US. As an adult, it can indeed be too sweet. I had some awesome homemade jam for a while that was way more tart that sweet and I was able to use that to make some pretty good ones. I wish I could find similar stuff in grocery stores. I don’t think a culture that has things such as the cheese and pickle sandwich should really judge though. Or even a regular cheese sandwich. You’re so close! Just grill it.
    - willcipriano 5y ago
      The British should be careful to not throw stones from their glass kitchen.
      - beaconstudios 5y ago
        Hey, I'm well aware that British food is very bland and beige for mainland European standards! It's a good thing we've developed a strong culture of culinary fusion to compensate for that - it's not all chips and mushy peas any more, we have our own remixes of many culinary transitions, especially Indian, Chinese, and Italian.
        willcipriano 5y ago
        If you can use "we have food from elsewhere" as an argument, the nation of immigrants has you beat again.
        beaconstudios 5y ago
        beat? I didn't realise it was a competition. American food is just very sweet compared to European food. You Americans are always so competitive about inane stuff. Also, there's a distinct difference between "we have food from elsewhere" and fusion food. There are specifically British-Indian and British-Italian dishes. I know that's the case with Italian-American and Chinese-American fusion food too - it's also sweeter, because yet again, American food is sweeter than European food.
        kaishiro 5y ago
        America is a big, diverse place. I'm not even sure what food you're talking about when you say "American food".
        beaconstudios 5y ago
        Well yeah, but just as "British food" means universals like fish & chips or a Sunday roast, with subcategories like Welsh or Scottish or Yorkshire-specific foods, there's a broader "American food" category with other subcategories that don't necessarily fit the bill. Creole food is one of my favourite cuisines and isn't over-sweet, for example. But so much American food just tastes over-sweetened to me when I was just eating random things from the supermarket or takeaways or restaurants on my various trips over. Pizzas, drinks, anything involving bread, breakfasts, that sort of thing. Obviously there are exceptions but it's something that really stood out to me. Even mass-market food with direct equivalences (McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Mountain Dew) that we have over here, were much sweeter in the US.
    - dagw 5y ago
      The sweetest sandwich ingredient we typically use is honey bacon It's been almost 15 years since I last actually lived in UK, but marmalade was certainly quite popular both for breakfast and tea.
      - Symbiote 5y ago
        Marmalade (and jam) is generally spread on toast for breakfast, rather than used in sandwiches.
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      - beaconstudios 5y ago
        Oh yeah, marmalade is great - but breakfast is often sweet in the UK with things like marmalade or jam on toast, porridge with honey, or continental breakfast (pain au chocolat, croissants). Sandwiches, on the other hand, are a lunch food and rarely if ever sweet.
  - Symbiote 5y ago
    A jam sandwich is what a British parent might serve a young child when, for whatever reason (illness, continued tantrums etc) they can't get them to eat anything else, or when they can't really afford much else. I doubt I've eaten one since I was about 12 years old. I thought PB&J sandwiches took the same place in the USA, but it seems they're eaten more routinely, including by adults. They obviously aren't cakes, but if I were to position them in a buffet it would be right next to the cakes.