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Google messed up the internet because they don't allow installing other websites' searches easily. We had an opensearchdescription.xml for literally most of th

Google messed up the internet because they don't allow installing other websites' searches easily. We had an opensearchdescription.xml for literally most of the websites, and somehow Browsers (including Firefox and Safari) managed to mess that up. I wish there was an easy browser extension that just persists searches correctly, and doesn't forget about them the next time I clear my browser cache. Guess I'll have to implement it in my own one again :-/ Google is so full of content farms these days, it's ridiculous. And all of them are ranked higher than the sources because they use google ads on their pages. Just search for a quote that you read here on HN or on reddit or on SO...and you'll find hundreds of them ranked higher than the source. Maybe someone should build a search engine that downranks all websites that have google analytics and google ads? Would certainly be an interesting experiment.

scim-knox-twox 5y ago
> Maybe someone should build a search engine that downranks all websites that have google analytics and google ads? Would certainly be an interesting experiment. Try Kagi.com. Also, you can manually rank or even block domains you choose.
aghilmort 5y ago
pretty much what we're up to at Breeze. we started out with topic searches, added web search, and are now blending the two. some examples: 1. web, blog tab in search results is ours, and our first iteration of making it easier to dial in topics directly from web results -> https://breezethat.com/ https://breezethat.com/ 2. early pre-web-wide topics before we added web search, https://breezethat.com/topics https://breezethat.com/topics 3. ladypedia, an experiment on tuning out ugender bias for Women's History Month on Wikipedia pages, https://breezethat.com/p/ladypedia https://breezethat.com/p/ladypedia 4. we're currently sussing out the extent to which sites are human-ranked vs. using other machine-extracted information from a page / site -- it's a lot of rapid iteration at the moment 5. we have similar thoughts as Ahrefs on publisher profit sharing, although we haven't established if we'll hit their 90/10 mark or not. we also have option for users to go premium and skip all ads
- scim-knox-twox 5y ago
  Are you planning to add accounts with ability to rank domains, like Kagi.com? There are a lot of useless, low-quality sites that I (so other people might find it useful) never want to see. I want to avoid using uBlacklist for that.
  - aghilmort 5y ago
    tl;dr -- yes 1. why? - only way scales -- we can't possibly curate everything - some sort of shared gain -- token, rev share, that's WIP - core concept is what we call "deep reddit" - search all links in a subreddit 2. users will get same controls - domains <- specific, subs, TLDs, etc. - keywords <- exact or fuzzy, akin to ~ - structure <- microformats, schema.org, etc. - format / content <- images, blogs, newsletters, video, etc. - user controls <- think form builder so don't have to remember query syntax - updates <- how often to snag updates - alerts, etc. 3. deployments - private, unlisted, or public - branded or white labeled / embedded - basically your personalized equalizer for the web
nightpool 5y ago
I've never had a problem using a specific website's search engine on Chrome? Your experiences may not be universal.

scim-knox-twox 5y ago

> Maybe someone should build a search engine that downranks all websites that have google analytics and google ads? Would certainly be an interesting experiment. Try Kagi.com. Also, you can manually rank or even block domains you choose.

aghilmort 5y ago

pretty much what we're up to at Breeze. we started out with topic searches, added web search, and are now blending the two. some examples: 1. web, blog tab in search results is ours, and our first iteration of making it easier to dial in topics directly from web results -> https://breezethat.com/ https://breezethat.com/ 2. early pre-web-wide topics before we added web search, https://breezethat.com/topics https://breezethat.com/topics 3. ladypedia, an experiment on tuning out ugender bias for Women's History Month on Wikipedia pages, https://breezethat.com/p/ladypedia https://breezethat.com/p/ladypedia 4. we're currently sussing out the extent to which sites are human-ranked vs. using other machine-extracted information from a page / site -- it's a lot of rapid iteration at the moment 5. we have similar thoughts as Ahrefs on publisher profit sharing, although we haven't established if we'll hit their 90/10 mark or not. we also have option for users to go premium and skip all ads

scim-knox-twox 5y ago
Are you planning to add accounts with ability to rank domains, like Kagi.com? There are a lot of useless, low-quality sites that I (so other people might find it useful) never want to see. I want to avoid using uBlacklist for that.
- aghilmort 5y ago
  tl;dr -- yes 1. why? - only way scales -- we can't possibly curate everything - some sort of shared gain -- token, rev share, that's WIP - core concept is what we call "deep reddit" - search all links in a subreddit 2. users will get same controls - domains <- specific, subs, TLDs, etc. - keywords <- exact or fuzzy, akin to ~ - structure <- microformats, schema.org, etc. - format / content <- images, blogs, newsletters, video, etc. - user controls <- think form builder so don't have to remember query syntax - updates <- how often to snag updates - alerts, etc. 3. deployments - private, unlisted, or public - branded or white labeled / embedded - basically your personalized equalizer for the web

nightpool 5y ago

I've never had a problem using a specific website's search engine on Chrome? Your experiences may not be universal.