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I recommend Kagi: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29835756 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29835756

usui 5y ago
If I put in "best toasters", there's a section called listicles that it lumps all such articles into. What a great feature.
Seirdy 5y ago
Kagi's interesting. On the surface, it seems like a metasearch engine. But upon closer inspection, two of its sources--its news and "non-commercial" Teclis indexes--are actually developed by the Kagi team, and can be used independently on their own dedicated sites. I do like the ability to boost and downrank certain domains myself. Its TinyGem platform also looks like an interesting "social bookmarking" approach that's more minimal and focused than other mainstream solutions. I'm currently working on a way to POSSE[0] my public bookmarks to TinyGem. [0]: https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE
dmje 5y ago
I've been using Kagi for a few weeks now. Unlike when I trialled ddg, and found about 90% of my searches ended up being !g, I'm finding Kagi results to be genuinely excellent. The "lens" functionality which lets you gone searches to a subset of site is really excellent and genuinely useful. Plus you can remove sites from results, too. I'm really optimistic about where it's going. And yes, they have a "pay for it" model which reassures me they're thinking about the future.
- ikt 5y ago
  > Unlike when I trialled ddg, and found about 90% of my searches ended up being !g How long ago did you try DDG and do you have some examples of searches that didn't work on DDG but did on Google?
- thematrixturtle 5y ago
  I filled out a survey for them, and the suggested pricing scheme seems out of whack though: $120/year is going to be a complete non-starter for mass adoption.
  - Doctor_Fegg 5y ago
    Don’t tell the SV VCs, but not every site needs to target mass adoption.
  - dmje 5y ago
    I don't think they're aiming for mass adoption. In fact I think I remember them saying in their FAQs that they "absolutely not a Google killer"
  - Gareth321 5y ago
    I agree. I really like it but $120/year is really pushing it. This is similar to what I pay for services like Spotify and Netflix, which I use far more frequently. I could stomach a $50 annual plan, for example, and I suspect they'll find this price point will result in higher revenue/profit over many more accounts when they begin price discovery.
    - omnicognate 5y ago
      You really use Netflix and Spotify more frequently than a search engine? I'm the other way round, and by like an order of magnitude at least. (Well, I don't use Spotify at all, but still.)
      - Gareth321 5y ago
        There might be a debate about the use of the word "frequency" but I average ~20 hours a week between Spotify and Netflix. My search engine time is far below one hour. Kagi would need to successfully argue that that hour is more "valuable" than the 20. For me, Kagi would need to be 2,000% better than Google to justify the price.

usui 5y ago

If I put in "best toasters", there's a section called listicles that it lumps all such articles into. What a great feature.

Seirdy 5y ago

Kagi's interesting. On the surface, it seems like a metasearch engine. But upon closer inspection, two of its sources--its news and "non-commercial" Teclis indexes--are actually developed by the Kagi team, and can be used independently on their own dedicated sites. I do like the ability to boost and downrank certain domains myself. Its TinyGem platform also looks like an interesting "social bookmarking" approach that's more minimal and focused than other mainstream solutions. I'm currently working on a way to POSSE[0] my public bookmarks to TinyGem. [0]: https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE

dmje 5y ago

I've been using Kagi for a few weeks now. Unlike when I trialled ddg, and found about 90% of my searches ended up being !g, I'm finding Kagi results to be genuinely excellent. The "lens" functionality which lets you gone searches to a subset of site is really excellent and genuinely useful. Plus you can remove sites from results, too. I'm really optimistic about where it's going. And yes, they have a "pay for it" model which reassures me they're thinking about the future.

ikt 5y ago
> Unlike when I trialled ddg, and found about 90% of my searches ended up being !g How long ago did you try DDG and do you have some examples of searches that didn't work on DDG but did on Google?
thematrixturtle 5y ago
I filled out a survey for them, and the suggested pricing scheme seems out of whack though: $120/year is going to be a complete non-starter for mass adoption.
- Doctor_Fegg 5y ago
  Don’t tell the SV VCs, but not every site needs to target mass adoption.
- dmje 5y ago
  I don't think they're aiming for mass adoption. In fact I think I remember them saying in their FAQs that they "absolutely not a Google killer"
- Gareth321 5y ago
  I agree. I really like it but $120/year is really pushing it. This is similar to what I pay for services like Spotify and Netflix, which I use far more frequently. I could stomach a $50 annual plan, for example, and I suspect they'll find this price point will result in higher revenue/profit over many more accounts when they begin price discovery.
  - omnicognate 5y ago
    You really use Netflix and Spotify more frequently than a search engine? I'm the other way round, and by like an order of magnitude at least. (Well, I don't use Spotify at all, but still.)
    - Gareth321 5y ago
      There might be a debate about the use of the word "frequency" but I average ~20 hours a week between Spotify and Netflix. My search engine time is far below one hour. Kagi would need to successfully argue that that hour is more "valuable" than the 20. For me, Kagi would need to be 2,000% better than Google to justify the price.