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The FastTrak lanes operated by Los Angeles Metro (the 10 and 110) are testing facial recognition cameras that can supposedly do the same job and ticket people a

The FastTrak lanes operated by Los Angeles Metro (the 10 and 110) are testing facial recognition cameras that can supposedly do the same job and ticket people automatically. I'm a little skeptical (on top of the privacy implications, there's practical ones: how well will they work when your passenger is reclining in the last row of a van with tinted windows? Or a child in a car seat facing backwards?), but we'll see how the pilot goes over the coming months.

jedberg 5y ago
Yeah they won't be able to see my baby facing backwards in the carseat or my mother in law in the back row of the van. That will really only work for cars with one row of seats.
us0r 5y ago
I am 99.99% sure right before covid I read (and saw them installing something) they were using some kind of heat or thermal reading on the 110. Me being curious I always set my transponder to 2 and turned on my passenger seat warmer on after that. Never got anything in the mail.
- tomerv 5y ago
  Is "being curious" a tongue-in-cheek way to describe breaking the law? "I was just curious whether anyone would notice if I step out of the store without paying"
cgriswald 5y ago
I am not a lawyer of any kind and this is not legal advice. I'm merely speculating based on my past experience with other tickets on how I might handle the hypothetical scenario being discussed. It's up to the state to prove their case. I'd contest any such ticket with the truth. Likely these systems are profitable because people don't generally contest the ticket (or do so in ineffectual ways). Neither the private company nor the state wants any judge making a ruling that makes such tickets impossible to enforce. I'd expect it would get dropped before I'd ever have to talk to a judge, but even if not, unless they have clear evidence I am lying, they're probably going to lose in court.

jedberg 5y ago

Yeah they won't be able to see my baby facing backwards in the carseat or my mother in law in the back row of the van. That will really only work for cars with one row of seats.

us0r 5y ago

I am 99.99% sure right before covid I read (and saw them installing something) they were using some kind of heat or thermal reading on the 110. Me being curious I always set my transponder to 2 and turned on my passenger seat warmer on after that. Never got anything in the mail.

tomerv 5y ago
Is "being curious" a tongue-in-cheek way to describe breaking the law? "I was just curious whether anyone would notice if I step out of the store without paying"

cgriswald 5y ago

I am not a lawyer of any kind and this is not legal advice. I'm merely speculating based on my past experience with other tickets on how I might handle the hypothetical scenario being discussed. It's up to the state to prove their case. I'd contest any such ticket with the truth. Likely these systems are profitable because people don't generally contest the ticket (or do so in ineffectual ways). Neither the private company nor the state wants any judge making a ruling that makes such tickets impossible to enforce. I'd expect it would get dropped before I'd ever have to talk to a judge, but even if not, unless they have clear evidence I am lying, they're probably going to lose in court.