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better hide inside forever just to be sure

discordance 5y ago
The elderly, people with health conditions and their carers can’t take such liberties. It’s a shame how easily we overlook and disregard swathes of people.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  These people have always been more vulnerable to diseases and less likely to survive them. COVID changes nothing.
  - terminatornet 5y ago
    so do you think we should get rid of safety warnings on products and product recalls? I mean kids and elderly people are more vulnerable to them and according to your logic, these warnings and recalls will do nothing.
  - awb 5y ago
    Increasing mortality rates through additional threats certainly does change your life expectancy.
- polypodiopsi 5y ago
  A lot of older people also have settled down, have bigger flats or houses and aren't so badly affected as young people. Having to do with kids a lot my experience has been, that the last two years have been brutal for those in puberty e.g. The people between 12 and 30 really have been, and you will find this to be statistically evaluated, hit the hardest in terms of mental health issues on average. So from their viewpoint it is imho a valid question to ask how much they sould be willing to hold back anymore and ignore the things that are important in the lives of the young.
terminatornet 5y ago
enjoy your long covid! https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-more-children-susceptible-long-haulers-long-covid-lingering-symptoms/ https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-mo...
- kazinator 5y ago
  "Long Covid" is mainly just hypochondria. A lot less of it is real than the hype would have you believe. The media loves spooky stuff because it generates clicks. Hypochondriacs are a thing: they are out there. Some of them have gotten Covid-19, and that of course turns into their new obsession.
  - terminatornet 5y ago
    interesting, i hadn't heard that. could you tell my what research university in your ass you pulled that out from?
    - dang 5y ago
      Commenting like this will get you banned here. It's not what HN is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting, we'd appreciate it.
    - kazinator 5y ago
  - mzvkxlcvd 5y ago
    to add to that, its pretty common for respiratory infections to take months to clear up. its not a covid specific thing
  - Reason077 5y ago
    Hypochondriacs do exist in the world, but I think you're being very dismissive. Lung scarring is certainly real and can take a long time (up to a year) to fully heal. This isn't imaginary: lung function and capacity can be quantified and measured.
bryanlarsen 5y ago
You do realize there is a happy middle ground between hiding inside forever and pretending COVID doesn't exist, right?
- tastyfreeze 5y ago
  Yes, that middle ground is stopping all required COVID mitigations and let people live their lives as they did before. COVID is here to stay. Time to start treating it like every other endemic disease. ps Pretty sure the comment you responded to was sarcasm.
  - tonyedgecombe 5y ago
    That is pretty much what we have done in the UK.
  - awb 5y ago
    > ps Pretty sure the comment you responded to was sarcasm I think it was more mockery than sarcasm. It’s a pretty common insult to make fun of people that wear masks, quarantine, etc. as being afraid or weak. It’s not a constructive or interesting viewpoint.
  - terminatornet 5y ago
    >To an epidemiologist, an endemic infection is one in which overall rates are static — not rising, not falling. More precisely, it means that the proportion of people who can get sick balances out the ‘basic reproduction number’ of the virus, the number of individuals that an infected individual would infect, assuming a population in which everyone could get sick. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00155-x https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00155-x covid isn't endemic
  - maxerickson 5y ago
    We should require ventilation improvements in buildings. Small cost that makes life better for everyone that uses the building. Should also try to push back against a culture of going to work and similar when blatantly symptomatic (I don't want a cold, I don't care if it is mild, I don't want it).
naoqj 5y ago
And enact laws so everybody else also is forced to stay home forever!
- somewhereoutth 5y ago
  and ever and ever and ever! But if Covid had a CFR of 10%, disproportionately affecting children, then yes we'd be doing whatever it took to eliminate it.

The elderly, people with health conditions and their carers can’t take such liberties. It’s a shame how easily we overlook and disregard swathes of people.

throwawayboise 5y ago
These people have always been more vulnerable to diseases and less likely to survive them. COVID changes nothing.
- terminatornet 5y ago
  so do you think we should get rid of safety warnings on products and product recalls? I mean kids and elderly people are more vulnerable to them and according to your logic, these warnings and recalls will do nothing.
- awb 5y ago
  Increasing mortality rates through additional threats certainly does change your life expectancy.
polypodiopsi 5y ago
A lot of older people also have settled down, have bigger flats or houses and aren't so badly affected as young people. Having to do with kids a lot my experience has been, that the last two years have been brutal for those in puberty e.g. The people between 12 and 30 really have been, and you will find this to be statistically evaluated, hit the hardest in terms of mental health issues on average. So from their viewpoint it is imho a valid question to ask how much they sould be willing to hold back anymore and ignore the things that are important in the lives of the young.

terminatornet 5y ago

enjoy your long covid! https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-more-children-susceptible-long-haulers-long-covid-lingering-symptoms/ https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2022/03/living-with-covid-mo...

kazinator 5y ago
"Long Covid" is mainly just hypochondria. A lot less of it is real than the hype would have you believe. The media loves spooky stuff because it generates clicks. Hypochondriacs are a thing: they are out there. Some of them have gotten Covid-19, and that of course turns into their new obsession.
- terminatornet 5y ago
  interesting, i hadn't heard that. could you tell my what research university in your ass you pulled that out from?
  - dang 5y ago
    Commenting like this will get you banned here. It's not what HN is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting, we'd appreciate it.
  - kazinator 5y ago
- mzvkxlcvd 5y ago
  to add to that, its pretty common for respiratory infections to take months to clear up. its not a covid specific thing
- Reason077 5y ago
  Hypochondriacs do exist in the world, but I think you're being very dismissive. Lung scarring is certainly real and can take a long time (up to a year) to fully heal. This isn't imaginary: lung function and capacity can be quantified and measured.

bryanlarsen 5y ago

You do realize there is a happy middle ground between hiding inside forever and pretending COVID doesn't exist, right?

tastyfreeze 5y ago
Yes, that middle ground is stopping all required COVID mitigations and let people live their lives as they did before. COVID is here to stay. Time to start treating it like every other endemic disease. ps Pretty sure the comment you responded to was sarcasm.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  That is pretty much what we have done in the UK.
- awb 5y ago
  > ps Pretty sure the comment you responded to was sarcasm I think it was more mockery than sarcasm. It’s a pretty common insult to make fun of people that wear masks, quarantine, etc. as being afraid or weak. It’s not a constructive or interesting viewpoint.
- terminatornet 5y ago
  >To an epidemiologist, an endemic infection is one in which overall rates are static — not rising, not falling. More precisely, it means that the proportion of people who can get sick balances out the ‘basic reproduction number’ of the virus, the number of individuals that an infected individual would infect, assuming a population in which everyone could get sick. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00155-x https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00155-x covid isn't endemic
- maxerickson 5y ago
  We should require ventilation improvements in buildings. Small cost that makes life better for everyone that uses the building. Should also try to push back against a culture of going to work and similar when blatantly symptomatic (I don't want a cold, I don't care if it is mild, I don't want it).

naoqj 5y ago

And enact laws so everybody else also is forced to stay home forever!

somewhereoutth 5y ago
and ever and ever and ever! But if Covid had a CFR of 10%, disproportionately affecting children, then yes we'd be doing whatever it took to eliminate it.