"But the flip side of that is that the types of people who tend to gravitate toward those languages are often more interested in programming for it's own sake a

"But the flip side of that is that the types of people who tend to gravitate toward those languages are often more interested in programming for it's own sake and not the domain they're working in. So you get things like people burning hours writing their own libraries and endless tinkering with programming minutiae instead of getting sh* done." Don't agree with everything, but this part is a very good point.