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Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England
- diaphanous 5y agohttps://archive.ph/W8HfL https://archive.ph/W8HfL
- OnlyMortal 5y agoAs it happens, there’s been a 52% increase in infections and 17% increase in hospitalisation recently. Death rates are flat though. Was reported on Channel 5 News today.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago>Death rates are flat though. Death rates tend to lag hospitalisations and infections.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y agoWhat about the long-term impact on the lungs, etc? > Was reported on Channel 5 News today. That does not fill me with confidence.
- tonyedgecombe 5y agoThere are actual statistics here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
- boomskats 5y ago> That does not fill me with confidence. You mean because Viacom?
- DaiPlusPlus 5y agoParamount now, but no: it's nothing to do with Viacom, but just that Channel 5's news programmes feel (to me, at least) dumbed-down in comparison to the BBC's or Sky's - let alone written journalism. I'm not accusing them of media-bias or intentional misreporting, but I just don't expect C5 to be entirely accurate on nuances of the issues reported or things like second-order consequences of news events. Medical news is far outside their organizational expertise: they don't have their own journalists: their Ofcom-mandated news programmes are made by ITN which just repackage AP/Reuters/BBC/ITN - it's better to get information closer to the source, where the details are, rather than getting lost in the game of telephone played between researchers, their journals, the journals' publishers (...and publicists), to newsgatherers, to newsagencies' editors, to newsrooms, and your screen. There's a lot of people in the way: https://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174 https://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174 So what I mean is that getting news on Covid from C5 is like getting world affairs updates from South Park.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoEvidently it can do brain damage as well as recently noted in some studies.
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- somewhereoutth 5y agoIt may well be less deadly, but it is far more contagious. Reinfection also seems to be not uncommon. We do not fully understand the long term effects of even a mild case, or indeed how repeated reinfection might compound any such effects, given that we might expect to catch it once or twice a year as opposed to once or twice in our lives for flu.
- mzvkxlcvd 5y agobetter hide inside forever just to be sure
- discordance 5y agoThe elderly, people with health conditions and their carers can’t take such liberties. It’s a shame how easily we overlook and disregard swathes of people.
- throwawayboise 5y agoThese people have always been more vulnerable to diseases and less likely to survive them. COVID changes nothing.
- terminatornet 5y agoso do you think we should get rid of safety warnings on products and product recalls? I mean kids and elderly people are more vulnerable to them and according to your logic, these warnings and recalls will do nothing.
- awb 5y agoIncreasing mortality rates through additional threats certainly does change your life expectancy.
- polypodiopsi 5y agoA lot of older people also have settled down, have bigger flats or houses and aren't so badly affected as young people. Having to do with kids a lot my experience has been, that the last two years have been brutal for those in puberty e.g. The people between 12 and 30 really have been, and you will find this to be statistically evaluated, hit the hardest in terms of mental health issues on average. So from their viewpoint it is imho a valid question to ask how much they sould be willing to hold back anymore and ignore the things that are important in the lives of the young.
- westondeboer 5y agoStill going to mask up when going indoors. I don't want the flu, I don't want a cold and I don't want to get covid.
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- dang 5y agoPlease don't be a jerk to your fellow community members. It's against the site guidelines, and leads to much worse threads. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- vinyl7 5y agoGreat way to destroy your immune system
- terminatornet 5y agoan even greater way to destroy your immune system? dying from covid!
- notch656a 5y agoOr I don't die from covid, and my toddler has lifelong slight disadvantage in language acquisition due to hysteria.
- terminatornet 5y agogood point, many asian countries (where public masking has been commonplace well before covid) have notoriously terrible students and learning issues.
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- mupuff1234 5y agoAny ideas why we are seeing an upwards trend in COVID cases in europe as opposed to the US?
- hairytrog 5y agoSomething that isn't begin mentioned, is that a lower IFR partially reflects the reduction in at risk groups. Those most at risk of dying have already succumbed to the disease.