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> It is, and no serious source calls this a genocide... Again, incorrect. The Ukrainian government has called this genocide. Are they not a serious source? The

by cols 5y ago

> It is, and no serious source calls this a genocide... Again, incorrect. The Ukrainian government has called this genocide. Are they not a serious source? The UN has also had at least one hearing so far to determine if there is genocide happening in Ukraine right now, which, I'll note, the Russians did not show up for. [0] I'm going to go ahead and stop replying to you at this point. You've made a number of assumptions about my level of engagement and education on the topic that are incorrect, and I don't feel like we are going to get anywhere. At any rate, insisting that the systematic carpet bombing of cities and murder of fleeing civilians _isn't_ genocide, seems like a questionable hill to die on. [0] - https://www.dw.com/en/russia-refuses-to-attend-un-court-hearing-on-invasion-of-ukraine/a-61041687 https://www.dw.com/en/russia-refuses-to-attend-un-court-hear...

lm28469 5y ago
> Again, incorrect. The Ukrainian government has called this genocide And Russia says there is no war... don't you think Ukraine and Russia stances might be slightly biased ? If we're arguing with that level of bad faith I agree that it won't go anywhere. > insisting that the systematic carpet bombing of cities and murder of fleeing civilians _isn't_ genocide, seems like a questionable hill to die on. It's a warcrime, it's not a genocide, I'll die on that hill, words have meaning. Otherwise every single conflict is a genocide, but then the word loses its meaning entirely so why not stop using it ? Again, it's a question of scale and intent. Putting every single jew you find in trains for death camps is a genocide, killing every single Vietnamese you find is a genocide, killing a few civilians while bombing a city at war is a war crime.