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To be honest, I thought your refusal was probably well justified considering the disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with cr

by harel 5y ago

To be honest, I thought your refusal was probably well justified considering the disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto. I'd love to see your end of year statistics now...

rmbyrro 5y ago
> disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto Source?
- harel 5y ago
  Personal observation on 2 projects. See above for details on another reply.
mcintyre1994 5y ago
> disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto I'm really curious what your source is for this. Anyone legit in crypto who's taking fiat is doing way more KYC than your average ecommerce store.
- trulyme 5y ago
  Besides, why commit credit card fraud when there are so many scam options available in the crypto world. :)
  - harel 5y ago
    There are always scams of different flavours around - that doesn't stop anyone from picking one or another. The appearance of easy money attracts those who seek easy money.
- harel 5y ago
  My personal observation. A large proportion of credit card payment were fraud, or flagged as such. It was such a huge number (% wise) that I (thought I) understood why stripe pulled the rug out. And in another project I observed a very large and sudden increase at attempted fraud right after elements of crypto were introduced (including attempts at impersonating me, and someone else involved). But honestly, when it comes to the crypto world, I'm that guy who laughed at that other guy for buying bitcoin at 20 cents. There was a lesson there somewhere.
- FridgeSeal 5y ago
  That’s way a huge amount of NFT’s don’t end up as rug pulls and scams right?
  - stu2b50 5y ago
    I mean that's different from the kind of fraud the parent post was talking about. If a user used their credit card to buy an NFT that quickly went to zero, that's not a fraudulent credit card transaction still - the user authorized that transaction. CC fraud would be if someone stole your credentials and bought something before the card was revoked.
terry_lisp 5y ago

by harel 5y ago

rmbyrro 5y ago

> disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto Source?

harel 5y ago
Personal observation on 2 projects. See above for details on another reply.

mcintyre1994 5y ago

> disproportionate levels of credit card fraud involved in anything to do with crypto I'm really curious what your source is for this. Anyone legit in crypto who's taking fiat is doing way more KYC than your average ecommerce store.

trulyme 5y ago
Besides, why commit credit card fraud when there are so many scam options available in the crypto world. :)
- harel 5y ago
  There are always scams of different flavours around - that doesn't stop anyone from picking one or another. The appearance of easy money attracts those who seek easy money.
harel 5y ago
My personal observation. A large proportion of credit card payment were fraud, or flagged as such. It was such a huge number (% wise) that I (thought I) understood why stripe pulled the rug out. And in another project I observed a very large and sudden increase at attempted fraud right after elements of crypto were introduced (including attempts at impersonating me, and someone else involved). But honestly, when it comes to the crypto world, I'm that guy who laughed at that other guy for buying bitcoin at 20 cents. There was a lesson there somewhere.
FridgeSeal 5y ago
That’s way a huge amount of NFT’s don’t end up as rug pulls and scams right?
- stu2b50 5y ago
  I mean that's different from the kind of fraud the parent post was talking about. If a user used their credit card to buy an NFT that quickly went to zero, that's not a fraudulent credit card transaction still - the user authorized that transaction. CC fraud would be if someone stole your credentials and bought something before the card was revoked.

terry_lisp 5y ago