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What is "genocide" to you if not erasure of cultural identity and physical eradication of peoples? Putin literally told us himself that "there are no distinct U

by yks 5y ago

What is "genocide" to you if not erasure of cultural identity and physical eradication of peoples? Putin literally told us himself that "there are no distinct Ukrainian people" which is erasure of cultural identity, and the indiscriminate killing of civilians is the physical eradication. It's not just about the hospital, the scale of atrocities against civilians is already way beyond the US wars in the Middle East and it's done on purpose. They haven't setup the gas chambers, I give you that, but the future of Ukrainian identity if Russia prevails is grim.

danielvaughn 5y ago
Okay, that's a good point and I can understand where you're coming from. It seems to be true that if Russia were to succeed, there wouldn't be much difference between the situation of the Ukrainians and that of the Uyghurs.
lm28469 5y ago
This thread is just painful to read, open a damn history book. Do you want to know what Russia does when they want to exterminate people ? They pound the cities until there is nothing left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994–1995) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994–1995) What's happening in Ukraines right now is nothing in comparison, and even the Grozny siege isn't considered a genocide.
- yks 5y ago
  They are pounding the Ukrainian cities like Grozny right now (where they have the ability)
  - lm28469 5y ago
    I haven't read any sources corroborating that, actually the contrary, regardless that would still "just" be a war crime, not a genocide. afaik Kharkiv is the most badly bombed city right now and it's nowhere close to Grozny (yet?) I know everyone is emotional and outraged, it's not an outrage competition though, using big (and invalid) words doesn't help
    - yks 5y ago
      Smaller town on the outskirts of Kharkiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87VbZjqyaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87VbZjqyaY Kharkiv itself: https://tinyurl.com/nh4kwymp https://tinyurl.com/nh4kwymp. It is way larger than Grozny so there is more buildings left to pound.

by yks 5y ago

danielvaughn 5y ago

Okay, that's a good point and I can understand where you're coming from. It seems to be true that if Russia were to succeed, there wouldn't be much difference between the situation of the Ukrainians and that of the Uyghurs.

lm28469 5y ago

This thread is just painful to read, open a damn history book. Do you want to know what Russia does when they want to exterminate people ? They pound the cities until there is nothing left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994–1995) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994–1995) What's happening in Ukraines right now is nothing in comparison, and even the Grozny siege isn't considered a genocide.

yks 5y ago
They are pounding the Ukrainian cities like Grozny right now (where they have the ability)
- lm28469 5y ago
  I haven't read any sources corroborating that, actually the contrary, regardless that would still "just" be a war crime, not a genocide. afaik Kharkiv is the most badly bombed city right now and it's nowhere close to Grozny (yet?) I know everyone is emotional and outraged, it's not an outrage competition though, using big (and invalid) words doesn't help
  - yks 5y ago
    Smaller town on the outskirts of Kharkiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87VbZjqyaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87VbZjqyaY Kharkiv itself: https://tinyurl.com/nh4kwymp https://tinyurl.com/nh4kwymp. It is way larger than Grozny so there is more buildings left to pound.