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You do realize you’re both smearing an American citizen who supports Ukraine as a “Russian troll” with no evidence, for simply bringing up the fact that nations
by nwienert 5y ago
You do realize you’re both smearing an American citizen who supports Ukraine as a “Russian troll” with no evidence, for simply bringing up the fact that nations don’t like having hostile actors in their backyard and that Russia warned against this over a decade. I’m not on the side of Russia here, I’m just fascinated how one-sided things become.
Reminds me of so many political conflicts of recent past - if you dare try and have a debate to capture nuance, even if you’re on the “same side” - but dare to point out it’s not black and white - people form rank, dismiss you with not even an attempt at discussion, and attempt to make you into a joke with the other “insiders”.
It’s fascinating, and happening right here, and it’s because you don’t want to believe that maybe you’ve been captured a just bit by western propaganda, because that would make all the (extremely virtuous) social signaling you’ve been doing just a bit less so, and you just a bit less reliable/intelligent on foreign policy.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-resurfaced-clip-russia-baltic-states-1997-video-1685864?amp=1 https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-resurfaced-clip-russia-ba...
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nato-explainer https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nat...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=us3-Wq89fOE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=us3-Wq89fOE
Still no thoughts on the US coup in 2014? Wish there were smarter folks in politics around here. It’s sad there’s not even a chance for any decent conversation.
- edgyquant 5y agoI didn’t say you were a Russian troll, I said you weren’t debating in good faith by bringing up irrelevant things like the Monroe doctorine in respond to my initial comment.
- nwienert 5y agoYou agreed with the person doing so. Calling whataboutism is lame (and why you got downvoted), it’s just shutting down a debate you are afraid to have.