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I still advocate for the use of f.lux itself. Not only does it support them continuing to lead the charge, but we are also at risk of OS makers reducing the fun

I still advocate for the use of f.lux itself. Not only does it support them continuing to lead the charge, but we are also at risk of OS makers reducing the functionality if we don’t keep them on their toes. f.lux still lets me go to a lower colour temp than either Windows or OSX. I know I’m a niche audience, but it makes a difference to me and I don’t think I’ll get anywhere by shouting at the giant Wall of Apple to expand their range.

cHaOs667 5y ago
I also still run it on every Mac I own. Love the tool and its functions.
hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
Glad someone else commented this. The a stock MacOS and Android features don't get nearly red enough for my preferences at night.
- jthrowsitaway 5y ago
  I used to run custom Android ROMs and now on my Pixel devices the #1 thing I miss are warmer temperatures. The stock options barely do anything.
  - hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
    Use Twilight app on your Pixel. Note that thankfully you can also give it Assistive permissions so that it can redden the whole screen (otherwise it won't have permission to redden things like the status bar and notifications pulldown).
aghilmort 5y ago
there's also some sort of associative positive placebo effect -- oh flux kicked in and it just makes us feel better somatically / prophylactically -- time to relax, deep breath, not stressing about or late night coding or life or whatever
- b3morales 5y ago
  Yes. I do the same thing with my LED houselights, making them yellow and then orange in the evening. When I set them to white temporarily and then forget to change them back I've noticed it seems to increase my alertness/delay drowsiness. It's most likely just that I've conditioned myself, but in practice I don't really care about the cause. I only care that it helps me wind down in the evening.
  - nightgarden 5y ago
    If you use home assistant there are some addons that allow you to sync the temperature of your LED bulbs to how high the sun is at the moment in your location... it's pretty neat. https://github.com/claytonjn/hass-circadian_lighting https://github.com/claytonjn/hass-circadian_lighting
  - joshspankit 5y ago
    Yep, I also do this. It's excellent. Whether it's conditioning, placebo, or an effect of the receptors in the eyes; I'll take it. There's something that feels good about being in sync with the natural day/night cycle. Cool white in the morning, warmer more dim light at night. I also like the idea of having a "sunrise/sunset" wall for any room that doesn't have proper windows but I've never implemented it.
    - aghilmort 5y ago
      +1 / thank you to everyone who added the conditioning causative effect to thread
- treeman79 5y ago
  I had extreme migraines for several years. 10 minutes under a fluorescent light would leave me completely dysfunctional. Flux helped noticeably. For true relief FL-41 glasses would extend the time to a few hours.
  - aghilmort 5y ago
karlshea 5y ago
Still use it myself as well... I like it less warm than macOS's night mode, and since I'm a night owl I get to make f.lux start its color change later than sunset.
- dewey 5y ago
  You can also adjust the warmth of the color in macOS's night shift mode. Does that not work for you?
  - karlshea 5y ago
    Ahh you're right! With f.lux I can still shift offset from sunset, so it still works a bit better for me.
dmlerner 5y ago
And a lower brightness than you can go to without it, for Windows at least. On linux, you can make it happen, of course. Idk about Mac.
jabroni_salad 5y ago
I like that it has a hotkey for toggling it off and on, as well as some automation features for toggling it off when certain apps are in use. It's nice that windows has built in Night Light but it turns all my screen recordings orange.
jeffkeen 5y ago
This comment reminded me that when I used flux and I'd work late, I'd reach a point where I'd get _tired_ because the blue light was gone (and I had my flux settings cranked). I haven't felt the same way with Apple's Night Shift.

cHaOs667 5y ago

I also still run it on every Mac I own. Love the tool and its functions.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago

Glad someone else commented this. The a stock MacOS and Android features don't get nearly red enough for my preferences at night.

jthrowsitaway 5y ago
I used to run custom Android ROMs and now on my Pixel devices the #1 thing I miss are warmer temperatures. The stock options barely do anything.
- hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
  Use Twilight app on your Pixel. Note that thankfully you can also give it Assistive permissions so that it can redden the whole screen (otherwise it won't have permission to redden things like the status bar and notifications pulldown).

aghilmort 5y ago

there's also some sort of associative positive placebo effect -- oh flux kicked in and it just makes us feel better somatically / prophylactically -- time to relax, deep breath, not stressing about or late night coding or life or whatever

b3morales 5y ago
Yes. I do the same thing with my LED houselights, making them yellow and then orange in the evening. When I set them to white temporarily and then forget to change them back I've noticed it seems to increase my alertness/delay drowsiness. It's most likely just that I've conditioned myself, but in practice I don't really care about the cause. I only care that it helps me wind down in the evening.
- nightgarden 5y ago
  If you use home assistant there are some addons that allow you to sync the temperature of your LED bulbs to how high the sun is at the moment in your location... it's pretty neat. https://github.com/claytonjn/hass-circadian_lighting https://github.com/claytonjn/hass-circadian_lighting
- joshspankit 5y ago
  Yep, I also do this. It's excellent. Whether it's conditioning, placebo, or an effect of the receptors in the eyes; I'll take it. There's something that feels good about being in sync with the natural day/night cycle. Cool white in the morning, warmer more dim light at night. I also like the idea of having a "sunrise/sunset" wall for any room that doesn't have proper windows but I've never implemented it.
  - aghilmort 5y ago
    +1 / thank you to everyone who added the conditioning causative effect to thread
treeman79 5y ago
I had extreme migraines for several years. 10 minutes under a fluorescent light would leave me completely dysfunctional. Flux helped noticeably. For true relief FL-41 glasses would extend the time to a few hours.
- aghilmort 5y ago

karlshea 5y ago

Still use it myself as well... I like it less warm than macOS's night mode, and since I'm a night owl I get to make f.lux start its color change later than sunset.

dewey 5y ago
You can also adjust the warmth of the color in macOS's night shift mode. Does that not work for you?
- karlshea 5y ago
  Ahh you're right! With f.lux I can still shift offset from sunset, so it still works a bit better for me.

dmlerner 5y ago

And a lower brightness than you can go to without it, for Windows at least. On linux, you can make it happen, of course. Idk about Mac.

jabroni_salad 5y ago

I like that it has a hotkey for toggling it off and on, as well as some automation features for toggling it off when certain apps are in use. It's nice that windows has built in Night Light but it turns all my screen recordings orange.

jeffkeen 5y ago

This comment reminded me that when I used flux and I'd work late, I'd reach a point where I'd get _tired_ because the blue light was gone (and I had my flux settings cranked). I haven't felt the same way with Apple's Night Shift.