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"Accept all" and the "Deny all" must be both be the same level of "easy-ness" I think this is not clear until it has been tested in court. Many websites n

"Accept all" and the "Deny all" must be both be the same level of "easy-ness" I think this is not clear until it has been tested in court. Many websites now have two offers: Free with 3rd part ads and paid. Surely paying is much less easy than clicking "Ok, show me the content with 3rd party ads". It will be very interesting, how courts see this.

croes 5y ago
Ads aren't the problem, tracking is. You can deliver ads without this complete user tracking.
andylynch 5y ago
I think it's pretty clear, GDPR literally says 'It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent'. The really problem is enforcement has been lacking, this is what NOYB are co. are working to fix.
- FreeHugs 5y ago
  As far as I understand it, "withdraw" here is the withdraw of the consent at a later time. Consent that was previously given. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/ I don't think it means that when asked for consent, the user must have an easy way to deny that consent. As the user can always decide to simply not use the website.
sdoering 5y ago
In Germany, the media sites that offered "either tracking/advertising" on vs "paid content approach" were already in court with that practice and won. The current situation is, that the courts decided, that the business model (advertising and by that tracking the sh*t out of people) is valid if they offer an alternative were people pay them for access to the content.
- FreeHugs 5y ago
  were already in court Really? That surprises me. I did not hear about this. Do you have a link to such a case?
  - sdoering 5y ago
    I know I read that in one of the data privacy newsletters I receive but am sadly currently not able to find it. Sorry.
- eternityforest 5y ago
  I hope that's true, because disallowing the tracking based business model completely would be a horrendous thing causing making it harder for people who aren't rich to be informed.

croes 5y ago

Ads aren't the problem, tracking is. You can deliver ads without this complete user tracking.

andylynch 5y ago

I think it's pretty clear, GDPR literally says 'It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent'. The really problem is enforcement has been lacking, this is what NOYB are co. are working to fix.

FreeHugs 5y ago
As far as I understand it, "withdraw" here is the withdraw of the consent at a later time. Consent that was previously given. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/ I don't think it means that when asked for consent, the user must have an easy way to deny that consent. As the user can always decide to simply not use the website.

sdoering 5y ago

In Germany, the media sites that offered "either tracking/advertising" on vs "paid content approach" were already in court with that practice and won. The current situation is, that the courts decided, that the business model (advertising and by that tracking the sh*t out of people) is valid if they offer an alternative were people pay them for access to the content.

FreeHugs 5y ago
were already in court Really? That surprises me. I did not hear about this. Do you have a link to such a case?
- sdoering 5y ago
  I know I read that in one of the data privacy newsletters I receive but am sadly currently not able to find it. Sorry.
eternityforest 5y ago
I hope that's true, because disallowing the tracking based business model completely would be a horrendous thing causing making it harder for people who aren't rich to be informed.