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"each sex can enter fertile pairings with 22,960 others" Imagine its Tinder profile :)

by b3lvedere 5y ago

Jenk 5y ago
I can't get past the mental visualisation of the gender drop-down list on the registration. Or the "seeking" list.
- xattt 5y ago
  A list would only work if selection is limited. A better UI decision would either be a “sex cloud” akin to a word cloud, or the bubble UI that Apple Music uses to identify your preferred genres.
  - Jenk 5y ago
    To be a success you'd need to create some kind of yubikey specifically for DNA sequences. Hell I'd imagine you'd need something like that just to meet people at a bar.
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    In the late 90's I designed a dating website and we had about 5 axis to have categories for morphology, preferences, compatibility, etc. Sadly, I didn't stay long enough to see it deployed to production, and never actually used the application (Amigos Virtuais, at Universo Online, in Brazil). The PO and I had a lot of fun with all other personality dimensions that we had.
dfxm12 5y ago
Tinder is not necessarily about "fertile pairings" though, but I guess humans (and some monkeys) are pretty unique in nature in that regard :)
- willcipriano 5y ago
  It's almost entirely about secondary sex characteristics and those exist exclusively to find fertile mates. Gay people still look at their potential partners secondary sex characteristics when deciding to mate with them. It's sort of a distinction without a difference situation.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  In using Tinder at all? Yeah, that's pretty much just humans.
geodel 5y ago
Or Twitter pronouns.
- vmception 5y ago
  When defining by which pairs can reproduce, or at least "connect corresponding mating organs", humans are also still limited to 2 sexes, pronoun discussion (in American English) acknowledges 2 sexes and decouples gender from that. A one to many relationship, instead of a one to one relationship. (I've found in other English variants, consensus is evolving differently with non-binary genders equalling additional sexes, this can make things confusing online - like on Twitter - if you aren't noticing that maybe Commonwealth countries are forming this conversation differently)
  - mschuster91 5y ago
    > When defining by which pairs can reproduce, or at least "connect corresponding mating organs", humans are also still limited to 2 sexes For ~98.3%, yes. About 1.7% [1] are... more difficult to answer that question for. For example, take a person with XX chromosomes but a penis and a person with XY chromosomes and a vagina. The "connect mating organs" step will work, but the pair will be infertile in almost all cases. Even when one disregards social gender identity and purely focuses on "biological" attributes, nature has given humanity a lot of options - most people will fit into the "standard" model of hormones, chromosomes and the presence of naturally-grown genitalia, but a lot of people will not. [1]: https://www.unfe.org/intersex-awareness/ https://www.unfe.org/intersex-awareness/
    - zajio1am 5y ago
      > About 1.7% are ... According to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/ it is more like 0.018 % than 1.7 %.
nobodyandproud 5y ago
“As a user, I only want to search for users whom I can pair with. All incompatible users should be excluded by default”. Now go and build it.
dang 5y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30625506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30625506.
rmbyrro 5y ago
Now imagine the list of pronouns they'd need to choose to create a Tinder profile...

"each sex can enter fertile pairings with 22,960 others" Imagine its Tinder profile :)

Jenk 5y ago

I can't get past the mental visualisation of the gender drop-down list on the registration. Or the "seeking" list.

xattt 5y ago
A list would only work if selection is limited. A better UI decision would either be a “sex cloud” akin to a word cloud, or the bubble UI that Apple Music uses to identify your preferred genres.
- Jenk 5y ago
  To be a success you'd need to create some kind of yubikey specifically for DNA sequences. Hell I'd imagine you'd need something like that just to meet people at a bar.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  In the late 90's I designed a dating website and we had about 5 axis to have categories for morphology, preferences, compatibility, etc. Sadly, I didn't stay long enough to see it deployed to production, and never actually used the application (Amigos Virtuais, at Universo Online, in Brazil). The PO and I had a lot of fun with all other personality dimensions that we had.

dfxm12 5y ago

Tinder is not necessarily about "fertile pairings" though, but I guess humans (and some monkeys) are pretty unique in nature in that regard :)

willcipriano 5y ago
It's almost entirely about secondary sex characteristics and those exist exclusively to find fertile mates. Gay people still look at their potential partners secondary sex characteristics when deciding to mate with them. It's sort of a distinction without a difference situation.
dragonwriter 5y ago
In using Tinder at all? Yeah, that's pretty much just humans.

geodel 5y ago

Or Twitter pronouns.

vmception 5y ago
When defining by which pairs can reproduce, or at least "connect corresponding mating organs", humans are also still limited to 2 sexes, pronoun discussion (in American English) acknowledges 2 sexes and decouples gender from that. A one to many relationship, instead of a one to one relationship. (I've found in other English variants, consensus is evolving differently with non-binary genders equalling additional sexes, this can make things confusing online - like on Twitter - if you aren't noticing that maybe Commonwealth countries are forming this conversation differently)
- mschuster91 5y ago
  > When defining by which pairs can reproduce, or at least "connect corresponding mating organs", humans are also still limited to 2 sexes For ~98.3%, yes. About 1.7% [1] are... more difficult to answer that question for. For example, take a person with XX chromosomes but a penis and a person with XY chromosomes and a vagina. The "connect mating organs" step will work, but the pair will be infertile in almost all cases. Even when one disregards social gender identity and purely focuses on "biological" attributes, nature has given humanity a lot of options - most people will fit into the "standard" model of hormones, chromosomes and the presence of naturally-grown genitalia, but a lot of people will not. [1]: https://www.unfe.org/intersex-awareness/ https://www.unfe.org/intersex-awareness/
  - zajio1am 5y ago
    > About 1.7% are ... According to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/ it is more like 0.018 % than 1.7 %.

nobodyandproud 5y ago

“As a user, I only want to search for users whom I can pair with. All incompatible users should be excluded by default”. Now go and build it.

dang 5y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30625506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30625506.

rmbyrro 5y ago

Now imagine the list of pronouns they'd need to choose to create a Tinder profile...