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After 2011 protests, even before Crimea and this war, I already gave up talking politics with my parents because of unfair difference in amount of exposure: you
by hamstergene 5y ago
After 2011 protests, even before Crimea and this war, I already gave up talking politics with my parents because of unfair difference in amount of exposure: you spend maybe 30 minutes per week dismantling the nonsense in their heads, then the TV spends 6+ hours per week refilling the vessel back full.
Propaganda's arguments are not holding because they are credible, in my experience they are easy and take under 3-5 exchanges until the person wiggles and tries to change the topic. Propaganda is holding because quantity beats quality, and in this case by a lot. Real people eventually give up while full-time paid astroturfers stay.
But even now, when talking to my parents, one snarky question is often enough to break the confidence. I can't emphasize the word question enough, people never start thinking unless they are asked a question. No need for any lectures, proof links, it does not even have to be a particularly smart question, if you just get them thinking they do all the bullshit-clearing job themselves. That is, until they turn on TV again :(
I'm not gonna pretend that I understand how things work, but I have a strong feeling the key is exposure and asking questions, rather than better rhetorics.
- vmception 5y agoAlong with questions I also pile on absurdities - I take their reality and add more to how it should work - that make them have to explain the canon For example, to flat earthers I would say “gravity works because of the 6 magnetic poles, which we could verify if the UN gunships let us past the ice walls” and theyd be like “exactly, the UN! 6 poles?” and I would keep adlibbing from there until I start questioning my own sources and describing a spherical rotating reality