> A good programmer uses the right language for the task. Agreed! > A good language is one that doesn't need a community and a beast of an editor just to code

> A good programmer uses the right language for the task. Agreed! > A good language is one that doesn't need a community and a beast of an editor just to code something that compiles and runs. Hmm. [citation needed]. I'd argue the exact opposite. A robust ecosystem and community around a language are a substantial part of its value proposition. Naturally, the language's PL details are what seed and fuel its ecosystem, so I'm not claiming semantics, syntax, and zeitgeist are irrelevant. See every "worse is better language": C, Python, Java, Javascript, English against whatever ML, Haskell, Esperanto, Lojban, etc.