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I don't mean to cause personal offense by this, but taking (and by extension, giving) anonymous dietary advice is pointless. A wide array of eating disorders

I don't mean to cause personal offense by this, but taking (and by extension, giving) anonymous dietary advice is pointless. A wide array of eating disorders exist in which the the afflicted are in complete denial about their own health. In real life, I would be able to glance over your body and get a quick idea of whether or not your advice was made with a sound mind. Even then, it's hard for me to know how accurately you're actually following your claimed diet. But without even being able to see your body, there is nothing for others to go on. For all I know, you're an anorexic deep in denial, or a binge eater who weighs more than my car. Your anonymous testimony alone tells me virtually nothing. Due to the insidious nature of eating disorders, even if I assume good faith and assume you aren't consciously lying, you still might be deep in denial lying to yourself and I would have no way of knowing it.

whatshisface 5y ago
You can't diagnose cancer by looking at someone.
- RobertMiller 5y ago
  I agree. However if somebody is telling me to each much less protein than most doctors and dieticians say I should, then I want to at least see if they've maintained a reasonable muscle mass under the diet they're advocating for. The proof is in the pudding, and anonymously online there is no pudding.
  - loudtieblahblah 5y ago
    here's the thing It seems that health span and lifespan are not the same goal. Maintaining muscle mass is good, even great, to a point. Especially for the eldery who need to prevent falls. But the process that helps us grow muscles (IGF-1/mTor) is also the same pathways that makes us grow cancer. Low protein intake is both correlated in large population studies with longevity. It's also seen in animal studies as well. High protein is great for reproductive health, glowing skin, building muscle, hell - probably even mood and cognition.
    - RobertMiller 5y ago
      The fundamental problem here is that since you (and I) are anonymous, there is no real way for us to communicate what we believe a "reasonable" muscle mass is. Even if we try to be specific and talk about specific numbers and mass indexes and how much we can bench, it's still futile. The nature of body disorders is such that somebody can have laughably incorrect beliefs about themselves without consciously meaning to lie. We could tell each other our BMIs but if we both stay anonymous, it's all meaningless.

whatshisface 5y ago

You can't diagnose cancer by looking at someone.

RobertMiller 5y ago
I agree. However if somebody is telling me to each much less protein than most doctors and dieticians say I should, then I want to at least see if they've maintained a reasonable muscle mass under the diet they're advocating for. The proof is in the pudding, and anonymously online there is no pudding.
- loudtieblahblah 5y ago
  here's the thing It seems that health span and lifespan are not the same goal. Maintaining muscle mass is good, even great, to a point. Especially for the eldery who need to prevent falls. But the process that helps us grow muscles (IGF-1/mTor) is also the same pathways that makes us grow cancer. Low protein intake is both correlated in large population studies with longevity. It's also seen in animal studies as well. High protein is great for reproductive health, glowing skin, building muscle, hell - probably even mood and cognition.
  - RobertMiller 5y ago
    The fundamental problem here is that since you (and I) are anonymous, there is no real way for us to communicate what we believe a "reasonable" muscle mass is. Even if we try to be specific and talk about specific numbers and mass indexes and how much we can bench, it's still futile. The nature of body disorders is such that somebody can have laughably incorrect beliefs about themselves without consciously meaning to lie. We could tell each other our BMIs but if we both stay anonymous, it's all meaningless.