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From within AWS, it just feels like we push people too hard. Service teams are too small relative to their goals, sales teams have unrealistic growth targets an
by AitchEmArsey 5y ago
From within AWS, it just feels like we push people too hard. Service teams are too small relative to their goals, sales teams have unrealistic growth targets and also double as support for needy/incompetent customers, and professional services have billable hour requirements which are as high as any major consultancy and with additional pre-sales support expectations.
Strict adherence to the "hiring bar" means we fail to bring in good people who aren't desperate enough to act out the cultish LP dance during their interview. Hiring new grads seems to be the only area where growth is not stalling - but that can obviously only help so much.
My team is hiring for 2-3 people and we are being buried alive without that growth happening sooner - but I can't in good conscience recommend this place to anyone I respect or like.
- kodah 5y agoI don't work anywhere as big as Amazon/AWS but it is still a "big tech engineering firm" and we're experiencing all the same problems.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago> From within AWS, it just feels like we push people too hard. Sounds like regular skeleton-crew enterprise IT.
- anonporridge 5y ago"We'll fix it when it breaks."
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- bogomipz 5y ago>"Strict adherence to the "hiring bar" means we fail to bring in good people who aren't desperate enough to act out the cultish LP dance during their interview." What is the "cultish LP dance" here that is weeding good people out? >"My team is hiring for 2-3 people and we are being buried alive without that growth happening sooner - but I can't in good conscience recommend this place to anyone I respect or like." I appreciate your candor. Are you in a dev role or are you on the SRE side? Is your description true across pretty much all teams/services then?
- AitchEmArsey 5y ago> What is the "cultish LP dance" here that is weeding good people out? The "culture fit" interview process focuses on leadership principles, so lots of questions like " tell me about a time when you went above and beyond for a customer". Being yourself will get you nowhere, you need to research the questions and the script that is expected of you. > What service does your team work on? I'm a partner-focused SA, so not a developer and not aligned to a particular service.
- notyourwork 5y agoThere is nothing cultish about the way Amazon interviews. If you are a good engineer with a relevant background who can speak english you will have no problem passing these interviews. I'm not sure why you are framing it as cultish.
- metadat 5y agoNative English speaker here. I was denied for unspecified reasons a couple years ago. At the time it was perplexing, as I had pretty good answers for all their questions. Now I work at one of the slightly more sane FANMAG (to include $ms) companies. Pretty sure I dodged a bullet, maybe the engineering manager spared me because he liked me more than I realized.
- bogomipz 5y agoI would be curious to know which one is considered more sane these days. I feel like I've heard enough negative things about the culture at all of them at this point.
- metadat 5y agoPresently, Apple, Microsoft, Oracle can all be okay as an employee IME. Depends entirely on the division and team you're joining. Ones I'd never consider, even for a cushy VP role- FB, Goggle. Ymmv.
- labster 5y agohttps://goomics.net/329/ https://goomics.net/329/