> There's a whole "no, we're not kidding; are you sure you want to take the job even given this?" segment to the offer So, your strategy is to deliberately mak

> There's a whole "no, we're not kidding; are you sure you want to take the job even given this?" segment to the offer So, your strategy is to deliberately make your job offer sound as unappealing as possible in order to find the people-who-call-themselves-programmers so unemployable and desperate for work they'll subject themselves to a trial period? Well, I would say that strategy, in terms of achieving its goal of attracting the desperate, is working out wonderfully for you all. From my own experience watching as my manager tries to find good people and from everything I've read, it IS hard to hire good developers. But it seems like you guys are making it much harder on yourselves.