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So the solution to a problem that didn't exist before is to buy new hardware? Seems pretty wasteful and worse, not to mention some of that hardware is a vehicle

So the solution to a problem that didn't exist before is to buy new hardware? Seems pretty wasteful and worse, not to mention some of that hardware is a vehicle with only an AUX port. The $10 adapter apple sells doesn't sound as good as the one they used to build into their phones, and removes inline volume/play/pause controls. Not only that, but now I lose access to my phone's charging port in order to use a wired connection (Charging needed during GPS usage), unless I buy an even more expensive adapter — most of which are unreliable and have universally terrible reviews. Macs still enjoy the best of both worlds with wired + wireless support — including the upcoming 2022 models — and it's hard to deny the phone (And tablet!) experience hasn't gotten worse without the 3.5mm jack.

scarface74 5y ago
If your vehicle has only an aux port… https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Lightning-Braided-Compatible-iPhone/dp/B07P5Q8SC1/ https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Lightning-Braided-Compatibl... Time moves on, should they also have not gotten rid of the 30 pin adapter? The play and pause control still works on the headphones
- ProfessorLayton 5y ago
  That adapter forces one to choose to listen to music or charge a phone, which is very problematic when using GPS, as it's very battery intensive, especially as the phone is often in direct sunlight. >Time moves on, should they also have not gotten rid of the 30 pin adapter? Apple is still releasing new hardware with a 3.5mm port! The port is far from outdated. Again, both wireless and wired audio coexisted nicely on the iPhone, this is a problem of their own doing, and they've made the experience objectively worse. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.
  - scarface74 5y ago
    Apple is also releasing new hardware with multiple USB-C ports and an SD card reader. Does that mean it should also release an iPhone with all of those features?
    - ProfessorLayton 5y ago
      iPhone never had SD card support, so that's a non-sequitur [Edit: Because we're talking about unnecessarily deprecated features, not new ones]. And yes, iPhone with USB-C support would be incredibly well received! Time to ditch the Lightning port asap.
      - scarface74 5y ago
        It’s not a non sequitur that Apple should have kept a headphone Jack on the iPhone because it is on other devices? They did have 5 generations of phones with 30 pin adapters.
astrange 5y ago
> The $10 adapter apple sells doesn't sound as good as the one they used to build into their phones, and removes inline volume/play/pause controls. ? It is just as good and it supports those controls and the microphone. There's multiple standards for the inline controls on TRRS though. It also tests better than most audiophile DACs.

scarface74 5y ago

If your vehicle has only an aux port… https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Lightning-Braided-Compatible-iPhone/dp/B07P5Q8SC1/ https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Lightning-Braided-Compatibl... Time moves on, should they also have not gotten rid of the 30 pin adapter? The play and pause control still works on the headphones

ProfessorLayton 5y ago
That adapter forces one to choose to listen to music or charge a phone, which is very problematic when using GPS, as it's very battery intensive, especially as the phone is often in direct sunlight. >Time moves on, should they also have not gotten rid of the 30 pin adapter? Apple is still releasing new hardware with a 3.5mm port! The port is far from outdated. Again, both wireless and wired audio coexisted nicely on the iPhone, this is a problem of their own doing, and they've made the experience objectively worse. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.
- scarface74 5y ago
  Apple is also releasing new hardware with multiple USB-C ports and an SD card reader. Does that mean it should also release an iPhone with all of those features?
  - ProfessorLayton 5y ago
    iPhone never had SD card support, so that's a non-sequitur [Edit: Because we're talking about unnecessarily deprecated features, not new ones]. And yes, iPhone with USB-C support would be incredibly well received! Time to ditch the Lightning port asap.
    - scarface74 5y ago
      It’s not a non sequitur that Apple should have kept a headphone Jack on the iPhone because it is on other devices? They did have 5 generations of phones with 30 pin adapters.

astrange 5y ago

> The $10 adapter apple sells doesn't sound as good as the one they used to build into their phones, and removes inline volume/play/pause controls. ? It is just as good and it supports those controls and the microphone. There's multiple standards for the inline controls on TRRS though. It also tests better than most audiophile DACs.