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War is a interaction between nations as a hole. Just like Russia as a uniform entity attacks and supplies this war (via taxes, e.g.), Ukraine as a whole is the

by 1ris 5y ago

War is a interaction between nations as a hole. Just like Russia as a uniform entity attacks and supplies this war (via taxes, e.g.), Ukraine as a whole is the victim of the attack. It is the responsibility of the average Russian joe to ensure he has a non-war-warmongering government. If the fails that responsibility, he will have to suffer the consequences. Even With or without any sanctions, just as the natural course due to the nature of war. Keep things in perspective: No body wants to send the average internet user to la Hague. That's the place for Putin and those who fly the air raids. This is just making this average day a bit worse for the sake of stifling Russias ability to sustain this attack. All of this will stop the moment the invasion stops. Russian Joes wants it to stop? Fine, go complain at those who choose to continue the war. There is a direct cause-and-effect relation there.

oh_sigh 5y ago
- butthe88 5y ago
- 1ris 5y ago
  Does punching them in the noose reduce the ability of the state of russia to wage war? No. So don't do it. People don't have their citizen ship tattooed to their faces. What you wrote is just plain silly. Should you punch your boss (nationality irrelevant) in the face for selling MREs and Ammo to Russia? Absolutely.
  - googlryas 5y ago
    Sure it does. Most people don't want to get punched in the nose, so they will work harder to stop the war in order to not get punched in the nose. I'd love to know how info-isolating Russia is effective at reducing the ability of the state to wage war, but not punching random Russians in the nose.
    - 1ris 5y ago
      Random people getting punched will not be collective problem with a collective response. The cause-and-effect is simply not there. Having enough non-punched dudes is also simply not required for war. Having Internet (as The Internet) helps a whole lot. For Psy-Ops, trade and commerce. There are videos of russian troops using google maps for mortar targeting,e.g.
      - MockObject 5y ago
        I'm not seeing the distinction. I think if enough Russians were punched enough, they'd stop the war. The argument holds.

by 1ris 5y ago

oh_sigh 5y ago

butthe88 5y ago
1ris 5y ago
Does punching them in the noose reduce the ability of the state of russia to wage war? No. So don't do it. People don't have their citizen ship tattooed to their faces. What you wrote is just plain silly. Should you punch your boss (nationality irrelevant) in the face for selling MREs and Ammo to Russia? Absolutely.
- googlryas 5y ago
  Sure it does. Most people don't want to get punched in the nose, so they will work harder to stop the war in order to not get punched in the nose. I'd love to know how info-isolating Russia is effective at reducing the ability of the state to wage war, but not punching random Russians in the nose.
  - 1ris 5y ago
    Random people getting punched will not be collective problem with a collective response. The cause-and-effect is simply not there. Having enough non-punched dudes is also simply not required for war. Having Internet (as The Internet) helps a whole lot. For Psy-Ops, trade and commerce. There are videos of russian troops using google maps for mortar targeting,e.g.
    - MockObject 5y ago
      I'm not seeing the distinction. I think if enough Russians were punched enough, they'd stop the war. The argument holds.