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> Unlocking and going to the home screen is how one uses an iPhone No? Much of the time I unlock my phone it's to look at notifications or widgets, or use the

> Unlocking and going to the home screen is how one uses an iPhone No? Much of the time I unlock my phone it's to look at notifications or widgets, or use the camera. I'll grant you its a bit pedantic but "unlocking" does have a specific meaning, and is a separate action from going to the home screen. No, it's not really "how one uses an iPhone". > it's not just your experience im designing for it's the use case I mentioned This is exactly my point. You are arguing in absolutes, that Face ID is objectively a worse experience. But that's not true, there are many use cases in which Face ID is better (gloves are the obvious example), and many use cases in which it is worse. I mean, as an example, just look at how many people say they prefer Face ID. Clearly it cannot be a universally hated feature.

paul7986 5y ago
Yes but it will always be too many steps then one step grabbing phone and having it unlocked / ready to use before it's in my view. Gloves I rarely wear a face mask I and 100s of millions have been wearing everyday multiple times a day since pandemic started. You live in a city face masks are still a forced thing. As a UX professional who strives for path of least resistance always That's the point I'm trying to make. Too many steps especially when driving is bad UX worse it's dangerous UX(yes don't use phone while driving but unfortunately too many do)!!! Eliminating Touch ID completely especially when all its competitors offer both is stupid and no doubt I'm sure the data shows Apple it's base really wants Touch ID back. Read comments on the SE on all blogs and you will see such dataset saying they want Touch ID not Face ID. Both need to be offered!
- marcellus23 5y ago
  > Yes but it will always be too many steps then one step grabbing phone and having it unlocked / ready to use before it's in my view. Okay, no point discussing this anymore, because I've responded to this point twice now and you've ignored it each time (that the "number of steps" is both dependent on the use case, and a meaningless measure anyway).
  - paul7986 5y ago
    https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/touch-id-forever-face-id-never/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/touch-id-forever-face-id-n... Author is saying similar thing ... steps matter in crafting the best UX .. they are not a meaningless measure as I'm sure you go crazy if you went to a website and to submit a document you had to upload then click a continue button that took you to another page that than had the submit button on it. THat's just stupid .. steps are no way a meaningless measure in UX they are the biggest rule when designing ... K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid .. adage). I hope you are not a designer you'd add unnecessary steps it sounds ;-)

paul7986 5y ago

Yes but it will always be too many steps then one step grabbing phone and having it unlocked / ready to use before it's in my view. Gloves I rarely wear a face mask I and 100s of millions have been wearing everyday multiple times a day since pandemic started. You live in a city face masks are still a forced thing. As a UX professional who strives for path of least resistance always That's the point I'm trying to make. Too many steps especially when driving is bad UX worse it's dangerous UX(yes don't use phone while driving but unfortunately too many do)!!! Eliminating Touch ID completely especially when all its competitors offer both is stupid and no doubt I'm sure the data shows Apple it's base really wants Touch ID back. Read comments on the SE on all blogs and you will see such dataset saying they want Touch ID not Face ID. Both need to be offered!

marcellus23 5y ago
> Yes but it will always be too many steps then one step grabbing phone and having it unlocked / ready to use before it's in my view. Okay, no point discussing this anymore, because I've responded to this point twice now and you've ignored it each time (that the "number of steps" is both dependent on the use case, and a meaningless measure anyway).
- paul7986 5y ago
  https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/touch-id-forever-face-id-never/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/09/touch-id-forever-face-id-n... Author is saying similar thing ... steps matter in crafting the best UX .. they are not a meaningless measure as I'm sure you go crazy if you went to a website and to submit a document you had to upload then click a continue button that took you to another page that than had the submit button on it. THat's just stupid .. steps are no way a meaningless measure in UX they are the biggest rule when designing ... K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid .. adage). I hope you are not a designer you'd add unnecessary steps it sounds ;-)