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>And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and official There are biolabs in the Ukraine, as confirmed by Nuland in the Se

>And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and official There are biolabs in the Ukraine, as confirmed by Nuland in the Senate hearings. Whether they have bio-weapons or medical research, who knows, but you can perhaps understand that the Russians might be concerned? What's really amazing about this story that only days ago it was painted as a Q-anon theory. Turns out it was real. We are neck deep in propaganda from all directions, but most people think it's only coming from the Russian side.

ethbr0 5y ago
There's a reason "dual purpose" exists as a term. Most American grade schools have "hacking devices", should we define that to be any computer. And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda (see: months of explicit denial of preparing for a Ukrainian invasion, by all levels of their government, in official statements).
- ashwagary 5y ago
  >And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda US history says the DOD, Pentagon, & the CIA are just as willing, if not more.
  - tonguez 5y ago
    Actually, pointing out the hypocrisy is invalid because that means you stand with Putin because Twitter said so. Derp.
- brabel 5y ago
  Russians lie, but history tells us that so does everyone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe5f5dcrGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe5f5dcrGE (Why Leaders Lie?)
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    The US lied* in 2003 to invade Iraq. Iraq was an autocracy that had previously invaded its neighbors multiple times and used chemical weapons against its own ethnic minorities. Ukraine is a democracy, and has no recent history of aggression. *At worst case. At best, they didn't verify too closely intelligence that said what they wanted it to say.
    - lovefart 5y ago
boomskats 5y ago
Yes, but during that same hearing when Victoria Nuland was asked about biological weapons facilities, she explicitly confirmed to Sen. Rubio that she is 100% confident that _if there is to be a biological weapon or incident inside the Ukraine, it will definitely be the Russians who are behind it_. [0] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1501313109520175104 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1501313109520175104
desmosxxx 5y ago
Russia is concerned that the US stepped in to make sure the post soviet labs didn't fall into the hands of terrorist or that ukraine continued weapons research? https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukraine-Weapons.pdf https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukra... quite ironic

ethbr0 5y ago

There's a reason "dual purpose" exists as a term. Most American grade schools have "hacking devices", should we define that to be any computer. And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda (see: months of explicit denial of preparing for a Ukrainian invasion, by all levels of their government, in official statements).

ashwagary 5y ago
>And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda US history says the DOD, Pentagon, & the CIA are just as willing, if not more.
- tonguez 5y ago
  Actually, pointing out the hypocrisy is invalid because that means you stand with Putin because Twitter said so. Derp.
brabel 5y ago
Russians lie, but history tells us that so does everyone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe5f5dcrGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe5f5dcrGE (Why Leaders Lie?)
- ethbr0 5y ago
  The US lied* in 2003 to invade Iraq. Iraq was an autocracy that had previously invaded its neighbors multiple times and used chemical weapons against its own ethnic minorities. Ukraine is a democracy, and has no recent history of aggression. *At worst case. At best, they didn't verify too closely intelligence that said what they wanted it to say.
  - lovefart 5y ago

boomskats 5y ago

Yes, but during that same hearing when Victoria Nuland was asked about biological weapons facilities, she explicitly confirmed to Sen. Rubio that she is 100% confident that _if there is to be a biological weapon or incident inside the Ukraine, it will definitely be the Russians who are behind it_. [0] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1501313109520175104 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1501313109520175104

desmosxxx 5y ago

Russia is concerned that the US stepped in to make sure the post soviet labs didn't fall into the hands of terrorist or that ukraine continued weapons research? https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukraine-Weapons.pdf https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukra... quite ironic