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IMO this is not very useful because any speech for which you’d want anonymity will likely be banned on Twitter anyway. You can jump through the hoops of procur

IMO this is not very useful because any speech for which you’d want anonymity will likely be banned on Twitter anyway. You can jump through the hoops of procuring anonymous email address and phone numbers but in the end Twitter will ban any real political dissent. Cf. Last two years.

mrtranscendence 5y ago
There's a bunch of political dissent on Twitter. Don't harass people or incite violence and you'll largely be OK.
- CyberRabbi 5y ago
  Twitter does not permit tweets that question or invalidate the official information coming out about COVID. “You may not use Twitter’s services to share false or misleading information about COVID-19 which may lead to harm.” https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misinformation-policy https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misin... Only blessed dissent is permitted.
  - Akronymus 5y ago
    So, science as more of a cult than the scientific method?
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  - hunterb123 5y ago
    The banning of Dr. R0b3rt MAl0n3 was peak irony of that rule. (had to use l33tspeak, was insta-flagged for saying his name, bot?) He invented the initial mRNA platform and performed the first mRNA vaccine experiments in 1989. That info was removed from wikipedia, but here's an archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210614140319/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine https://web.archive.org/web/20210614140319/https://en.wikipe... There's 9 patents in his name for the platforms and his name is all over the original mRNA experiments. He was banned for misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine...
    - acdha 5y ago
      > He was banned for misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine... Your summary of his work is grossly overstating the connection to mRNA vaccines — it's about as accurate as saying someone who contributed to ViolaWWW was the inventory of React — but he's definitely a great example of how politics can cloud even an accomplished scientist's judgment. Fortunately for the rest of us, however, the scientific process doesn't take past accomplishments into account and his later non-rigorous claims were quickly found wanting.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        > The first mRNA vaccine experiments were carried out by P. Felgner, J. Wolff, G. Rhodes, R.W. Malone and D. Carson. P. They completed a number of mRNA vaccination studies that resulted in nine patents on mRNA vaccination with a shared priority date of March 21, 1989. One experiment documented that NEF (an HIV protein) mRNA vaccination in mice, followed by HIV challenge reduced positively stained cells by 2-fold and p24 expression was reduced by 50% at eight weeks Is this inaccurate to you? Because there are 9 US patents that say otherwise. > Your summary of his work is grossly overstating the connection to mRNA vaccines Yeah, he only ran the first mRNA vaccine experiments and designed the first mRNA platforms is all. > it's about as accurate as saying someone who contributed to ViolaWWW was the inventory of React Terrible analogy, Malone worked directly on the first mRNA vaccine experiments. > but he's definitely a great example of how politics can cloud even an accomplished scientist's judgment. Or it's a great example of how politics can cloud your judgement of scientists going against the status quo. It's not new. > Fortunately for the rest of us, however, the scientific process doesn't take past accomplishments into account and his later non-rigorous claims were quickly found wanting. Truth is being arbitrated by tech monopolies and politicians, not mRNA scientists like Dr. Malone. The scientific process is not being followed by Twitter. The scientific method needs criticism, it's strange to ban dissent in the name of science.
        acdha 5y ago
        Nobody is being banned for dissent, they're having incorrect claims challenged and removed from sources like Wikipedia which are supposed to be conveying accurate information. His work which met the standards of science is accurately described in his Wikipedia page; his later claims which did not meet scientific standards are also accurately described.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  - Shared404 5y ago
    > When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser I like that quote from your profile, I think I'll start using it!
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      Thanks, go for it, you'll have lots of opportunities to nowadays. Fun fact, it's attributed to Socrates often but there's no record of that. Snopes says they couldn't find any usage earlier than 2008. But like most Snopes articles that was wrong as there's someone using it from 2006 here: https://web.archive.org/web/20060529060643/http://freedomkeys.com/whofundedit.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20060529060643/http://freedomkey...
M2Ys4U 5y ago
Calling Russia's war against Ukraine a "war" is speech that Russians in Russia need anonymity for right now. And that's not banned by Twitter.
- CyberRabbi 5y ago
  There are certainly examples of political dissent that are not regularly banned by Twitter but that doesn’t negate the fact that there are also examples of political dissent that are regularly banned by Twitter, which is the point of the OP.
KarlKemp 5y ago
Have you seen the news in, like, the last three weeks?
- CyberRabbi 5y ago
  How does the news in the last three weeks refute my comment?

mrtranscendence 5y ago

There's a bunch of political dissent on Twitter. Don't harass people or incite violence and you'll largely be OK.

CyberRabbi 5y ago
Twitter does not permit tweets that question or invalidate the official information coming out about COVID. “You may not use Twitter’s services to share false or misleading information about COVID-19 which may lead to harm.” https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misinformation-policy https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/medical-misin... Only blessed dissent is permitted.
- Akronymus 5y ago
  So, science as more of a cult than the scientific method?
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- hunterb123 5y ago
  The banning of Dr. R0b3rt MAl0n3 was peak irony of that rule. (had to use l33tspeak, was insta-flagged for saying his name, bot?) He invented the initial mRNA platform and performed the first mRNA vaccine experiments in 1989. That info was removed from wikipedia, but here's an archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210614140319/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine https://web.archive.org/web/20210614140319/https://en.wikipe... There's 9 patents in his name for the platforms and his name is all over the original mRNA experiments. He was banned for misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine...
  - acdha 5y ago
    > He was banned for misinformation regarding the Covid-19 vaccine... Your summary of his work is grossly overstating the connection to mRNA vaccines — it's about as accurate as saying someone who contributed to ViolaWWW was the inventory of React — but he's definitely a great example of how politics can cloud even an accomplished scientist's judgment. Fortunately for the rest of us, however, the scientific process doesn't take past accomplishments into account and his later non-rigorous claims were quickly found wanting.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      > The first mRNA vaccine experiments were carried out by P. Felgner, J. Wolff, G. Rhodes, R.W. Malone and D. Carson. P. They completed a number of mRNA vaccination studies that resulted in nine patents on mRNA vaccination with a shared priority date of March 21, 1989. One experiment documented that NEF (an HIV protein) mRNA vaccination in mice, followed by HIV challenge reduced positively stained cells by 2-fold and p24 expression was reduced by 50% at eight weeks Is this inaccurate to you? Because there are 9 US patents that say otherwise. > Your summary of his work is grossly overstating the connection to mRNA vaccines Yeah, he only ran the first mRNA vaccine experiments and designed the first mRNA platforms is all. > it's about as accurate as saying someone who contributed to ViolaWWW was the inventory of React Terrible analogy, Malone worked directly on the first mRNA vaccine experiments. > but he's definitely a great example of how politics can cloud even an accomplished scientist's judgment. Or it's a great example of how politics can cloud your judgement of scientists going against the status quo. It's not new. > Fortunately for the rest of us, however, the scientific process doesn't take past accomplishments into account and his later non-rigorous claims were quickly found wanting. Truth is being arbitrated by tech monopolies and politicians, not mRNA scientists like Dr. Malone. The scientific process is not being followed by Twitter. The scientific method needs criticism, it's strange to ban dissent in the name of science.
      - acdha 5y ago
        Nobody is being banned for dissent, they're having incorrect claims challenged and removed from sources like Wikipedia which are supposed to be conveying accurate information. His work which met the standards of science is accurately described in his Wikipedia page; his later claims which did not meet scientific standards are also accurately described.
hunterb123 5y ago
- Shared404 5y ago
  > When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser I like that quote from your profile, I think I'll start using it!
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    Thanks, go for it, you'll have lots of opportunities to nowadays. Fun fact, it's attributed to Socrates often but there's no record of that. Snopes says they couldn't find any usage earlier than 2008. But like most Snopes articles that was wrong as there's someone using it from 2006 here: https://web.archive.org/web/20060529060643/http://freedomkeys.com/whofundedit.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20060529060643/http://freedomkey...

M2Ys4U 5y ago

Calling Russia's war against Ukraine a "war" is speech that Russians in Russia need anonymity for right now. And that's not banned by Twitter.

CyberRabbi 5y ago
There are certainly examples of political dissent that are not regularly banned by Twitter but that doesn’t negate the fact that there are also examples of political dissent that are regularly banned by Twitter, which is the point of the OP.

KarlKemp 5y ago

Have you seen the news in, like, the last three weeks?

CyberRabbi 5y ago
How does the news in the last three weeks refute my comment?