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How so? If it leaked from a lab, it is almost certainly from the Wuhan lab. The Wuhan lab was a joint French-Chinese operation. Before COVID-19, EcoHealth (an o

How so? If it leaked from a lab, it is almost certainly from the Wuhan lab. The Wuhan lab was a joint French-Chinese operation. Before COVID-19, EcoHealth (an organization with ties to the Wuhan lab) applied for a grant from DARPA to perform gain-of-function-esque research on COVID[1]. DARPA denied the application. [1] https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-gra...

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
From [1]: Other scientists contacted by The Intercept noted that there is published evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was already engaged in some of the genetic engineering work described in the proposal and that viruses designed in North Carolina could easily be used in China. “The mail is filled with little envelopes with plasmid dried on to filter paper that scientists routinely send each other,” said Jack Nunberg, director of the Montana Biotechnology Center at the University of Montana.
- octopoc 5y ago
  > the Wuhan Institute of Virology was already engaged in some of the genetic engineering work described in the proposal Sure, but that doesn't point to America it points to China. > “The mail is filled with little envelopes with plasmid dried on to filter paper that scientists routinely send each other,” It seems unlikely the leak happened at the Wuhan post office, but even if it did, how does imply American incompetence?
  - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
    > how does imply American incompetence? 1 million dead people kind of makes it seem an “a priori”
    - edgyquant 5y ago
      Way to skirt around the fact that nothing points to it having come from America or being due to it. Even if incompetence allowed it to spread it was already global when it reached the US.
      - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
        Just different branches of the fault tree. Some analyst will someday pull together a fault tree weighted by deaths and economic harm, and America’s share will (based on current trends) certainly weigh heavier than most.
    - mardifoufs 5y ago
      Even if we could blame American incompetence for the 1m death Americans, they can't be blamed for the pandemic as a whole. That does not make sense. The virus started spreading from China to dozens of countries before it even became a pandemic in the US.
      - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
        Just different branches of the fault tree. Some analyst will someday pull together a fault tree weighted by deaths and economic harm, and America’s share will (based on current trends) certainly weigh heavier than most.

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago

From [1]: Other scientists contacted by The Intercept noted that there is published evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was already engaged in some of the genetic engineering work described in the proposal and that viruses designed in North Carolina could easily be used in China. “The mail is filled with little envelopes with plasmid dried on to filter paper that scientists routinely send each other,” said Jack Nunberg, director of the Montana Biotechnology Center at the University of Montana.

octopoc 5y ago
> the Wuhan Institute of Virology was already engaged in some of the genetic engineering work described in the proposal Sure, but that doesn't point to America it points to China. > “The mail is filled with little envelopes with plasmid dried on to filter paper that scientists routinely send each other,” It seems unlikely the leak happened at the Wuhan post office, but even if it did, how does imply American incompetence?
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  > how does imply American incompetence? 1 million dead people kind of makes it seem an “a priori”
  - edgyquant 5y ago
    Way to skirt around the fact that nothing points to it having come from America or being due to it. Even if incompetence allowed it to spread it was already global when it reached the US.
    - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
      Just different branches of the fault tree. Some analyst will someday pull together a fault tree weighted by deaths and economic harm, and America’s share will (based on current trends) certainly weigh heavier than most.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    Even if we could blame American incompetence for the 1m death Americans, they can't be blamed for the pandemic as a whole. That does not make sense. The virus started spreading from China to dozens of countries before it even became a pandemic in the US.
    - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
      Just different branches of the fault tree. Some analyst will someday pull together a fault tree weighted by deaths and economic harm, and America’s share will (based on current trends) certainly weigh heavier than most.