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And already working, here in France the main leftist candidate (JL. Mélenchon) has used these events as definitive proof nuclear energy is not sustainable (Fran

And already working, here in France the main leftist candidate (JL. Mélenchon) has used these events as definitive proof nuclear energy is not sustainable (France's presidential elections are taking place next month), anti-nuclear rhetoric has been one of his hobby-horses for a while now, conflating civil nuclear with military.

veb 5y ago
Ha, sort of ironic to me as a Kiwi - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior We are still nuclear free too - and we still don't have many military visits to our ports or marine territory considering it's illegal to have a ship or submarine with nuclear weapons or reactor. most navies won't tell you if they have nuclear weapons/reactors so basically they're not allowed here. (but really, what are we gonna do? we have like two boats.) ;-)
- Zealotux 5y ago
  Oh yeah uh... sorry about the Rainbow Warrior. And don't let any DGSE agent anywhere near those two boats of yours.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Apologies probably should include the deportation of those involved rather than their lionization.
    - mardifoufs 5y ago
      France is almost completely unapologetic over any of it's past actions. They will issue lowkey official apologies, like they did to new Zealand in 2015 but nothing will change and no one will be prosecuted. If anything, there is a huge desire to "go back to the glory days". It's pretty much the only country that is still so brazenly colonial (the concept of a francafrique is not even subject to any debate there) and they are regularly pulling "rainbow warrior" types of actions in africa even now. A good example is their complete control on Ivory Coast politics to the point of violently interfering when things don't go their way. They even had generals openly admit on TV that they greenlit almost every type of war crimes in Algeria, with nothing of consequence happening to them even after their own confession. The past is the past, right? So yeah I wouldn't hold my breath over the deportations happening anytime soon.
sofixa 5y ago
He's a running joke though. His stance on many things is outright ridiculous ( like the EU) and he doesn't stand any chance of getting actually elected. He also had very dubious stances on Russia before the invasion of Ukraine ( he's of course changed course). Nobody is taking his position on nuclear seriously. I hope.

veb 5y ago

Ha, sort of ironic to me as a Kiwi - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior We are still nuclear free too - and we still don't have many military visits to our ports or marine territory considering it's illegal to have a ship or submarine with nuclear weapons or reactor. most navies won't tell you if they have nuclear weapons/reactors so basically they're not allowed here. (but really, what are we gonna do? we have like two boats.) ;-)

Zealotux 5y ago
Oh yeah uh... sorry about the Rainbow Warrior. And don't let any DGSE agent anywhere near those two boats of yours.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Apologies probably should include the deportation of those involved rather than their lionization.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    France is almost completely unapologetic over any of it's past actions. They will issue lowkey official apologies, like they did to new Zealand in 2015 but nothing will change and no one will be prosecuted. If anything, there is a huge desire to "go back to the glory days". It's pretty much the only country that is still so brazenly colonial (the concept of a francafrique is not even subject to any debate there) and they are regularly pulling "rainbow warrior" types of actions in africa even now. A good example is their complete control on Ivory Coast politics to the point of violently interfering when things don't go their way. They even had generals openly admit on TV that they greenlit almost every type of war crimes in Algeria, with nothing of consequence happening to them even after their own confession. The past is the past, right? So yeah I wouldn't hold my breath over the deportations happening anytime soon.

sofixa 5y ago

He's a running joke though. His stance on many things is outright ridiculous ( like the EU) and he doesn't stand any chance of getting actually elected. He also had very dubious stances on Russia before the invasion of Ukraine ( he's of course changed course). Nobody is taking his position on nuclear seriously. I hope.