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Why require any phone number? I hate Twitter and won't use it either way, but they have no business asking for phone numbers.

rhexs 5y ago
Have you tried making any accounts online these days without a phone number? Good luck — there are extremely few services left that allow it due to “abuse” and other nonsense. My favorite case of this is that you used to be able to create a google account through android without a phone number. Assuming this is still possible, if you do this your account will be immediately suspended for “suspicious activity” and require a phone to unlock.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  I use one service that requires a phone number: Signal. I'm doing alright on the internet. If your service requires a phone number to sign up, I will not use it, period. If more people thought like me this would be a problem, but the majority seems hell bent on spreading their cheeks for peanuts these days.
noasaservice 5y ago
If you hate twitter so much, then respectfully, why are you commenting? This post is exclusively about Twitter and Tor.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  So people are only allowed to be positive on topics? I don't think HN got that memo. Don't open a Tesla, Facebook, or crypto article, you'll be shocked to see how many people hate those things and are commenting anyway!
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  Not OP but my 2 cents: "Hate" / "Dislike" / Critical Post / Negative comment, is just as valid as "Love" / "Like" / Positive Comment. Either may be productive (constructive feedback or earned support) or unproductive (pointless criticism as much as baseless love). In fact, as owner of any service/product/store, constructive negative feedback is valuable. My wife is a store manager and subscribes to "Feedback is a gift" philosophy - is a customer is going to leave, she'd appreciate knowing, in constructive way, why they are leaving.
- caymanjim 5y ago
  There's a general tone of commentary here that it's good that Twitter is accepting Tor connections. I think that's a good thing. There's also a lot of side-commentary about how Twitter shouldn't be overly-praised for this because they follow plenty of other dark patterns, most notably requiring a login and collecting phone numbers and other personal information. The main reason I hate Twitter is because of their dark patterns (and shitty UI). If they stopped collecting phone numbers, I'd hate them less.
Stevvo 5y ago
Originally Twitter was over SMS. That's why Tweets were limited to 140 characters; it's all you could fit. So they did have a reason to ask for phone numbers from the beginning.
- barbazoo 5y ago
  Ok but now, what feels like a 100 years later, they don't anymore. It's just another data point to identify users and sell that information eventually.
- maerF0x0 5y ago
  And today the hard requirement is???
  - 0xdeadb00f 5y ago
    Money. They want money.

rhexs 5y ago

Have you tried making any accounts online these days without a phone number? Good luck — there are extremely few services left that allow it due to “abuse” and other nonsense. My favorite case of this is that you used to be able to create a google account through android without a phone number. Assuming this is still possible, if you do this your account will be immediately suspended for “suspicious activity” and require a phone to unlock.

betwixthewires 5y ago
I use one service that requires a phone number: Signal. I'm doing alright on the internet. If your service requires a phone number to sign up, I will not use it, period. If more people thought like me this would be a problem, but the majority seems hell bent on spreading their cheeks for peanuts these days.

noasaservice 5y ago

If you hate twitter so much, then respectfully, why are you commenting? This post is exclusively about Twitter and Tor.

hunterb123 5y ago
So people are only allowed to be positive on topics? I don't think HN got that memo. Don't open a Tesla, Facebook, or crypto article, you'll be shocked to see how many people hate those things and are commenting anyway!
NikolaNovak 5y ago
Not OP but my 2 cents: "Hate" / "Dislike" / Critical Post / Negative comment, is just as valid as "Love" / "Like" / Positive Comment. Either may be productive (constructive feedback or earned support) or unproductive (pointless criticism as much as baseless love). In fact, as owner of any service/product/store, constructive negative feedback is valuable. My wife is a store manager and subscribes to "Feedback is a gift" philosophy - is a customer is going to leave, she'd appreciate knowing, in constructive way, why they are leaving.
caymanjim 5y ago
There's a general tone of commentary here that it's good that Twitter is accepting Tor connections. I think that's a good thing. There's also a lot of side-commentary about how Twitter shouldn't be overly-praised for this because they follow plenty of other dark patterns, most notably requiring a login and collecting phone numbers and other personal information. The main reason I hate Twitter is because of their dark patterns (and shitty UI). If they stopped collecting phone numbers, I'd hate them less.

Stevvo 5y ago

Originally Twitter was over SMS. That's why Tweets were limited to 140 characters; it's all you could fit. So they did have a reason to ask for phone numbers from the beginning.

barbazoo 5y ago
Ok but now, what feels like a 100 years later, they don't anymore. It's just another data point to identify users and sell that information eventually.
maerF0x0 5y ago
And today the hard requirement is???
- 0xdeadb00f 5y ago
  Money. They want money.