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Can you imagine having to manually insert 100000 CDs and all their metadata into some GUI, even though you have everything on file elsewhere already? And not ju

Can you imagine having to manually insert 100000 CDs and all their metadata into some GUI, even though you have everything on file elsewhere already? And not just any GUI application, but the complete garbage that is iTunes. Because some dev/clown has the hubris to proclaim "there is no other way"? I'd not care if you're Steve Jobs himself. That's some just laugh and leave the room level of Kafkaesque ridiculousness. Glad I work in the era of public-facing APIs. Even if Apple still seems to be clinging on to their consume-only mentality.

duxup 5y ago
>even though you already have everything on file elsewhere already? Sounds like an opportunity to automate much of that...
- willbudd 5y ago
  Yeah, no doubt. Everything can be automated. And I'm sure some dirty hack was cobbled together to work around the situation rather than turning some poor human into a zombie with both RSI and PTSD. I'd hope. But let's not turn the tables that way. My point is that "opportunity" should have been addressed _before_ Steve Jobs decided to fly in all those industry bigwigs to do his sales pitch. I mean, who was selling who here exactly? Different times I guess...
  - duxup 5y ago
    I really don't have a problem with putting the onus on the owner to make sure their information is correct, let them prioritize and so on. It's not ideal, but in 2003 the idea that everything has an API was still very pie in the sky for A LOT of things.
    - willbudd 5y ago
      That's fair, but there didn't even need to be an API. Just some feature to import WAV files and/or track listings would have gone a long way.
DonHopkins 5y ago
If only there were a way to script Apple applications, perhaps some kind of architecture, for scripting, that was open, and Apple's own apps actually supported it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript#Open_Scripting_Architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript#Open_Scripting_Arc...
- colonwqbang 5y ago
  Can you script a CD-ROM to jump off its shelf and into the CD-ROM reader?
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    Can you script Steve Jobs to let them simply submit the high quality rips and metadata they already had?
  - mcast 5y ago
    You could probably emulate a CD driver using the WAV files from your server.
    - yurishimo 5y ago
      This is a neat idea! I wish I had some software to test this entire workflow and build some automation, just for fun. :)
kawsper 5y ago
I don't know how it is today, but I've noticed both spelling mistakes and ripping errors on bought content from iTunes (Music).
vishnugupta 5y ago
> the complete garbage that is iTunes. I’ve become an Apple fan as I’ve spent most of my IT time in their ecosystem over last 5 years. I’ve come to appreciate their UI pattern (which was confusing at first due to my conditioning of Linux), the consistency, nifty little features. However to this day I just couldn’t get used to their iTunes (and now Apple Music) UX. I’m always fumbling around, searching for a song is a same sequence of confusing clicks and swipes. I thought it was me but now I’m convinced that it’s just a garbage of a software.
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  I've been an Apple fan since 2008. Their media apps are just bad and have they have been for years.
- raytube 5y ago
  On my droid about 2.5gb of garbage of a software. And yet it almost works on Google assistant, with hardly any installation. I too get lost from playlist and search/song wandering, but Apple isn't unique in this regard.
- ZYinMD 5y ago
  Speaking of their UI pattern, I just don't understand why MacOS doesn't indicate when one software has 2 or more open windows. For example, if you open 2 Word documents, the Word app will only show one, and there's no intuitive way to tell if there's a second window, and no intuitive way to switch to the second window. My wife has had a Mac for 10 years and still only semi understands how these windows work. Edit: comments below are trying to tell me how to switch windows, of course I know how. My point is MacOS doesn't tell you there are multiple windows. On PC, the Dock will show "stacked" icons.
  - oblio 5y ago
    Apple is gently telling you you're holding your phone, sorry, Word, wrong, and you shouldn't do that. I'm not kidding, for some of this stuff that's their actual line of reasoning. They probably want you to use some other window management feature, regardless if you want to use it or not.
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ZYinMD 5y ago
Well his brain is not your brain, and no matter how ridiculous you think he is, he has the final outcome of Apple to prove he's right. Put a different person in his position and the company would have bankrupted.

duxup 5y ago

>even though you already have everything on file elsewhere already? Sounds like an opportunity to automate much of that...

willbudd 5y ago
Yeah, no doubt. Everything can be automated. And I'm sure some dirty hack was cobbled together to work around the situation rather than turning some poor human into a zombie with both RSI and PTSD. I'd hope. But let's not turn the tables that way. My point is that "opportunity" should have been addressed _before_ Steve Jobs decided to fly in all those industry bigwigs to do his sales pitch. I mean, who was selling who here exactly? Different times I guess...
- duxup 5y ago
  I really don't have a problem with putting the onus on the owner to make sure their information is correct, let them prioritize and so on. It's not ideal, but in 2003 the idea that everything has an API was still very pie in the sky for A LOT of things.
  - willbudd 5y ago
    That's fair, but there didn't even need to be an API. Just some feature to import WAV files and/or track listings would have gone a long way.

DonHopkins 5y ago

If only there were a way to script Apple applications, perhaps some kind of architecture, for scripting, that was open, and Apple's own apps actually supported it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript#Open_Scripting_Architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript#Open_Scripting_Arc...

colonwqbang 5y ago
Can you script a CD-ROM to jump off its shelf and into the CD-ROM reader?
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  Can you script Steve Jobs to let them simply submit the high quality rips and metadata they already had?
- mcast 5y ago
  You could probably emulate a CD driver using the WAV files from your server.
  - yurishimo 5y ago
    This is a neat idea! I wish I had some software to test this entire workflow and build some automation, just for fun. :)

kawsper 5y ago

I don't know how it is today, but I've noticed both spelling mistakes and ripping errors on bought content from iTunes (Music).

vishnugupta 5y ago

> the complete garbage that is iTunes. I’ve become an Apple fan as I’ve spent most of my IT time in their ecosystem over last 5 years. I’ve come to appreciate their UI pattern (which was confusing at first due to my conditioning of Linux), the consistency, nifty little features. However to this day I just couldn’t get used to their iTunes (and now Apple Music) UX. I’m always fumbling around, searching for a song is a same sequence of confusing clicks and swipes. I thought it was me but now I’m convinced that it’s just a garbage of a software.

kayodelycaon 5y ago
I've been an Apple fan since 2008. Their media apps are just bad and have they have been for years.
raytube 5y ago
On my droid about 2.5gb of garbage of a software. And yet it almost works on Google assistant, with hardly any installation. I too get lost from playlist and search/song wandering, but Apple isn't unique in this regard.
ZYinMD 5y ago
Speaking of their UI pattern, I just don't understand why MacOS doesn't indicate when one software has 2 or more open windows. For example, if you open 2 Word documents, the Word app will only show one, and there's no intuitive way to tell if there's a second window, and no intuitive way to switch to the second window. My wife has had a Mac for 10 years and still only semi understands how these windows work. Edit: comments below are trying to tell me how to switch windows, of course I know how. My point is MacOS doesn't tell you there are multiple windows. On PC, the Dock will show "stacked" icons.
- oblio 5y ago
  Apple is gently telling you you're holding your phone, sorry, Word, wrong, and you shouldn't do that. I'm not kidding, for some of this stuff that's their actual line of reasoning. They probably want you to use some other window management feature, regardless if you want to use it or not.

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ZYinMD 5y ago

Well his brain is not your brain, and no matter how ridiculous you think he is, he has the final outcome of Apple to prove he's right. Put a different person in his position and the company would have bankrupted.