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This smells of hypocracy. Our companies sets up production in China to take advantage of loose labour laws and abuse workers, but cry foul when they get hit by

This smells of hypocracy. Our companies sets up production in China to take advantage of loose labour laws and abuse workers, but cry foul when they get hit by loose IP laws. Also the US stole textile technology from the British Empire to launch it's own industrial revolution. Also your regular reminder that intellectuall properly is legal fiction that some cultures do not recognise, or see differently.

refurb 5y ago
Extending this logic, if the US said some state should stop trafficking in slaves you’d say “this smells of hypocracy! the US had slaves 160 years ago, so shouldn’t be expecting other states to not buy and sell slaves”. See how stupid that argument sounds?
- spacemanmatt 5y ago
  > See how stupid... You compared "intellectual property" to slavery. Try again.
- FpUser 5y ago
  >"See how stupid that argument sounds" Your argument sounds even more stupid. You are comparing something commonly recognized as a crime to some artificial concept forced down the throat of a country that was being exploited and was frankly in their right to use whatever means to get out of that subservient state. The west is patented everything by now. Expecting the rest of the world to serve that system and be poor forever is disgusting.
  - refurb 5y ago
    You realize hypocrisy doesn't require something is a "crime" right?
    - FpUser 5y ago
      Can you tell me whose hypocrisy you are referring to.
      - refurb 5y ago
        The earlier reply to my comment that China should stop stealing intellectual property was "This smells of hypocracy.".
- yunohn 5y ago
  Hmmm, this argument would hold more weight if offshoring for cheap labor was not eerily like modern slavery. This is exactly what happens now - the West has laws, and corporations go abroad to ignore them and absolve responsibility, while lobbying for and supporting the lack of human rights.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  Go ask random people on the street 'do you think slavery is morally right'. Then go out on the street and ask 'do you think it's morally wrong that India does not respect our medical patents so that they can produce cheap generic treatments from cancer accesible to their people' You will find that the number of people that believe these two situations are morally comparable is roughly ~0%

refurb 5y ago

Extending this logic, if the US said some state should stop trafficking in slaves you’d say “this smells of hypocracy! the US had slaves 160 years ago, so shouldn’t be expecting other states to not buy and sell slaves”. See how stupid that argument sounds?

spacemanmatt 5y ago
> See how stupid... You compared "intellectual property" to slavery. Try again.
FpUser 5y ago
>"See how stupid that argument sounds" Your argument sounds even more stupid. You are comparing something commonly recognized as a crime to some artificial concept forced down the throat of a country that was being exploited and was frankly in their right to use whatever means to get out of that subservient state. The west is patented everything by now. Expecting the rest of the world to serve that system and be poor forever is disgusting.
- refurb 5y ago
  You realize hypocrisy doesn't require something is a "crime" right?
  - FpUser 5y ago
    Can you tell me whose hypocrisy you are referring to.
    - refurb 5y ago
      The earlier reply to my comment that China should stop stealing intellectual property was "This smells of hypocracy.".
yunohn 5y ago
Hmmm, this argument would hold more weight if offshoring for cheap labor was not eerily like modern slavery. This is exactly what happens now - the West has laws, and corporations go abroad to ignore them and absolve responsibility, while lobbying for and supporting the lack of human rights.
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
Go ask random people on the street 'do you think slavery is morally right'. Then go out on the street and ask 'do you think it's morally wrong that India does not respect our medical patents so that they can produce cheap generic treatments from cancer accesible to their people' You will find that the number of people that believe these two situations are morally comparable is roughly ~0%