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All of those listed are WAY above MSRP! MSRP is $1,499 in the U.S. and £1,399 in the U.K.

Macha 5y ago
The question was if they were available, not if they were available at MSRP (thanks downvoters, the comment even called out the price was inflated...). My understanding is that until recently in the US you basically had to buy from scalpers as the stocks had none at any price unless you stalked for restocks. They're overpriced for sure, and that's the only reason the M1U pricing looks equivalent rather than exorbitant
- jsjohnst 5y ago
  > The question was if they were available, not if they were available at MSRP (thanks downvoters, the comment even called out the price was inflated...). I wasn’t a DVer, but they’ve always been available if you were willing to pay a scalper. The only thing that has changed is that more retailers find it appropriate to rip off their customers. It’s kinda like a liquor store I’ve done business with for years now wanting $3,800 for a bottle of 23yr PVW. MSRP is $299.99. Should the owner not be able to make extra profit on it, no, of course they should. But >12x MSRP is just predatory imho.
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- SpelingBeeChamp 5y ago
  What does "overpriced" mean, other than "more than you are willing to pay?"
  - Macha 5y ago
    * Higher than historical norms due to very unusual market conditions * Much higher than MSRP, which was reduced compared to the previous generation because that attempt at raising prices killed market demand for said previous generation. * No longer affordable by the traditional customer base but sustained by a new market with questionable longevity in its demand Take your pick. Sure, in a pure rational economic sense the market price has risen because supply has fallen at the same time a new market of buyers became very interested in the product, but we're talking consumer expectations and historical trends here, not the current price in a vacuum.

The question was if they were available, not if they were available at MSRP (thanks downvoters, the comment even called out the price was inflated...). My understanding is that until recently in the US you basically had to buy from scalpers as the stocks had none at any price unless you stalked for restocks. They're overpriced for sure, and that's the only reason the M1U pricing looks equivalent rather than exorbitant

jsjohnst 5y ago
> The question was if they were available, not if they were available at MSRP (thanks downvoters, the comment even called out the price was inflated...). I wasn’t a DVer, but they’ve always been available if you were willing to pay a scalper. The only thing that has changed is that more retailers find it appropriate to rip off their customers. It’s kinda like a liquor store I’ve done business with for years now wanting $3,800 for a bottle of 23yr PVW. MSRP is $299.99. Should the owner not be able to make extra profit on it, no, of course they should. But >12x MSRP is just predatory imho.
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SpelingBeeChamp 5y ago
What does "overpriced" mean, other than "more than you are willing to pay?"
- Macha 5y ago
  * Higher than historical norms due to very unusual market conditions * Much higher than MSRP, which was reduced compared to the previous generation because that attempt at raising prices killed market demand for said previous generation. * No longer affordable by the traditional customer base but sustained by a new market with questionable longevity in its demand Take your pick. Sure, in a pure rational economic sense the market price has risen because supply has fallen at the same time a new market of buyers became very interested in the product, but we're talking consumer expectations and historical trends here, not the current price in a vacuum.