5 ms·
As long as US keeps trying to antagonize China, things like this will keep happening.
by trasz 5y ago
As long as US keeps trying to antagonize China, things like this will keep happening.
- refurb 5y agoBy antagonize you mean “asking China not to secretly steal our intellectual property”?
- freeflight 5y agoGood thing then Germany ain't antagonizing the US [0] or this whole topic would look very hypocritical [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial_espionage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial... [1] https://apnews.com/article/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53 https://apnews.com/article/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53
- refurb 5y ago[flagged]
- freeflight 5y agoAnd Germans call it "Heuchler", US IP law ain't "world IP law" no matter how much Americans insist it shall be. But it's fascinating how consistently Americans can preach "Do as we say, not as we do!" without the slightest bit of self-awareness, any such shall be considered "propaganda".
- anamax 5y ago"whataboutism" is what we used to call "equal treatment before the law".
- refurb 5y agoEqual treatment of US behavior in the 1800’s to China behavior in the 2000’s under different treaties?
- coliveira 5y agoIs't that pure reality? America was fighting against the Nazi regime when at home they had the most severe apartheid regime in an industrialized nation.
- watwut 5y agoThey have been using the argument exclusively against opposition, whether domestic or not. So, you have Havel or other dissident complaining about what is going on in Czech Republic and Russia ... and they get response about America instead. The Soviet regime cared about those exclusively when using them as talking point. To shut up own critics and that is it.
- coliveira 5y agoThis might be the case, but it doesn't make the argument, per se, incorrect. In fact it is a correct argument, that's why it persisted.
- watwut 5y agoIt does make it incorrect. Argument is not "Americans lynch blacks and Americans should stop". Argument was "Americans lynched blacks in the past, therefore it is ok for us to jail internal opponents and ok to kick their loved ones from schools and work". American lynching's are no more relevant then Tibet or ancient Sparta when Havel is talking about events in Eastern Europe.
- coliveira 5y agoOh, so in the same way that the American government mentioned communist crimes to justify going around the world and killing millions of people?
- Pigalowda 5y agoThat profile lists it as a “50 cent Army member”. The profile is not really a good faith interactor.
- dtn 5y agoIsn't that just tongue-in-cheek? Considering how easily accusations of astroturfing and shilling are thrown around when it comes to this topic.
- Pigalowda 5y agoSure it certainly could be. Whether the account is shilling or shit posting doesn’t really matter though. Either one isn’t a good faith interaction.
- Fricken 5y ago
- dang 5y agoYou can't attack another user like this, regardless of whether they missed a joke or not. We've had to warn you about being aggressive with other users many times in the past. This is a pattern: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27401192 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27401192 (June 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19534285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19534285 (March 2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17734563 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17734563 (Aug 2018) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16059003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16059003 (Jan 2018) If you keep this up we're eventually going to have to ban you. I don't want to ban you, so please don't keep this up!
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoThis smells of hypocracy. Our companies sets up production in China to take advantage of loose labour laws and abuse workers, but cry foul when they get hit by loose IP laws. Also the US stole textile technology from the British Empire to launch it's own industrial revolution. Also your regular reminder that intellectuall properly is legal fiction that some cultures do not recognise, or see differently.
- refurb 5y agoExtending this logic, if the US said some state should stop trafficking in slaves you’d say “this smells of hypocracy! the US had slaves 160 years ago, so shouldn’t be expecting other states to not buy and sell slaves”. See how stupid that argument sounds?
- spacemanmatt 5y ago> See how stupid... You compared "intellectual property" to slavery. Try again.
- FpUser 5y ago>"See how stupid that argument sounds" Your argument sounds even more stupid. You are comparing something commonly recognized as a crime to some artificial concept forced down the throat of a country that was being exploited and was frankly in their right to use whatever means to get out of that subservient state. The west is patented everything by now. Expecting the rest of the world to serve that system and be poor forever is disgusting.
- est 5y agobrain drain was a thing before the term "steal IP" was invented.
- HarryHirsch 5y agoThere's anarchy between states - the US is spying on Chinese industries, just as China is spying on US industries, it's how the world is. That said, this man isn't a spy - the fact that the government couldn't rig a jury in Tennessee makes very clear that he is innocent.
- refurb 5y agoDid you reply to the wrong comment?
- HarryHirsch 5y agoNo. You wished China would stop spying on the US. That's just not in the cards.