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Honestly, probably intentional. I mean, you can't write an article about a Twitter thread where above each tweet you see the name Danielle and still call her Da

Honestly, probably intentional. I mean, you can't write an article about a Twitter thread where above each tweet you see the name Danielle and still call her Daniel accidentally. And this isn't the first time that Lunduke is behaving... reactionary, to put it mildly.

slightwinder 5y ago
Habit is a strong force, and not everyone is reading display-names all the time. Especially on twitter I usually naviagate by the profile-picture, not the names, because people change their display-names all the time, making them unreliable.
skrebbel 5y ago
> Honestly, probably intentional. Assuming bad intent doesn't often help clear up conflicts on the internet.
- input_sh 5y ago
  We're talking about a guy who has another substack called Conservative Nerds and "Pronouns: Dude / Duder" in his Twitter bio dead naming a trans person. Bad intent is a safe assumption. I'd obviously love to be proven wrong and see an edited version of the post, but I'm 99.999% sure that will not happen. He knows exactly what he's doing.
  - mpfundstein 5y ago
    - input_sh 5y ago
      And where did I imply otherwise? It's just a shitty thing to do, and I'm backing up my claim that it's such on purpose.
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AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
Lunduke is a self described conservative, and Danielle is a self described "transgender lesbian communist". It's intentional. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure he's had her on his YouTube channel before.
- ddtaylor 5y ago
  He probably has not had her on post transition. It's possible she appeared on the channel before transition, eg. as "Daniel Fore" in the past which might be the reason for the confusion.
  - AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
    I know we're supposed to assume good faith here, but I find that really hard to believe. As far as I'm aware, Danielle didn't "announce" her transition in any EOS channels. But if you look at her profile for more than five seconds, it's pretty freaking obvious. Her name is updated on her Twitter, from which Lunduke based his article: https://twitter.com/DaniElainaFore https://twitter.com/DaniElainaFore It's updated on the EOS Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/shdouy/updates_for_january_2022_elementary_blog/ https://old.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/shdouy/update... It's updated on the company blog: https://blog.elementary.io/elementary-os-6-1-available-now/ https://blog.elementary.io/elementary-os-6-1-available-now/ And it's plainly obvious on the company YouTube channel if you compare Q&A/livestreams between months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfyFew7toGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfyFew7toGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu9-F6B2Gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu9-F6B2Gs I would be willing to overlook that kind of flagrant oversight if not for the fact that Lunduke calls himself A JOURNALIST. That he would continue to use her dead-name despite all of the research he's supposed to do as part of his job makes him either malicious or incompetent. Take your pick.
    - ddtaylor 5y ago
      The handle is actually quite new. She transitioned months ago but didn't update her handles until last week.
toasteros 5y ago
It is intentional. Lunduke spends most of his time doling out hate towards trans people now. There's a (now deleted) twitter exchange between him and someone he calls "a man in a dress". He is a very hateful person these days.
- josteink 5y ago
  That sounds like quite a narrow-sighted view of the man. The way I see him, he is cheerful, enthusiastic and tries to find joy and fun in technology and computing. Color me prejudist, but that's probably the polar opposite of trying to find politics in technology and computing. Besides, not everyone is 100% caught up in this trans-bubble, where being trans is the single most important thing in the universe. I realize it is for some people, a small minority, and that's perfectly OK. But at the same time, it is not for the vast majority, and most people just don't care that much, and don't pay much attention to the subject, at all. And that's not wrong. It's OK too. And the minority will just have to deal with different people being different. That's sort of their schtick too, isn't it? Would it be completely out of this world to assume that Lunduke is simply being careless here, because it's not on his radar? I certainly wouldn't go checking if people I've interviewed before have changed gender since last time around, before referring to them in an article.
  - toasteros 5y ago
    > Would it be completely out of this world to assume that Lunduke is simply being careless here, because it's not on his radar? I certainly wouldn't go checking if people I've interviewed before have changed gender since last time around, before referring to them in an article. I'd love it if that were the case, but his comments directly aimed at trans people suggest otherwise. He is anti-vax & anti-trans and you just have to scroll down his twitter feed to see just how hateful he is. Finding "fun" in technology is not telling women that they are men in dresses, using their deadnames, or vocally pulling your kids out of school because of "medical tyranny". I have no love for the wacky Linux Sucks guy anymore. His radicalism and hate has coloured his views too much for me. Yes, it is narrow minded of me to shut him out of my headspace forever. But y'know what? That's okay. It's just Bryan Lunduke. Just some guy. He's as relevant to me as I am to you.

slightwinder 5y ago

Habit is a strong force, and not everyone is reading display-names all the time. Especially on twitter I usually naviagate by the profile-picture, not the names, because people change their display-names all the time, making them unreliable.

skrebbel 5y ago

> Honestly, probably intentional. Assuming bad intent doesn't often help clear up conflicts on the internet.

input_sh 5y ago
We're talking about a guy who has another substack called Conservative Nerds and "Pronouns: Dude / Duder" in his Twitter bio dead naming a trans person. Bad intent is a safe assumption. I'd obviously love to be proven wrong and see an edited version of the post, but I'm 99.999% sure that will not happen. He knows exactly what he's doing.
- mpfundstein 5y ago
  - input_sh 5y ago
    And where did I imply otherwise? It's just a shitty thing to do, and I'm backing up my claim that it's such on purpose.
- josteink 5y ago
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AdmiralAsshat 5y ago

Lunduke is a self described conservative, and Danielle is a self described "transgender lesbian communist". It's intentional. The sad thing is I'm pretty sure he's had her on his YouTube channel before.

ddtaylor 5y ago
He probably has not had her on post transition. It's possible she appeared on the channel before transition, eg. as "Daniel Fore" in the past which might be the reason for the confusion.
- AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
  I know we're supposed to assume good faith here, but I find that really hard to believe. As far as I'm aware, Danielle didn't "announce" her transition in any EOS channels. But if you look at her profile for more than five seconds, it's pretty freaking obvious. Her name is updated on her Twitter, from which Lunduke based his article: https://twitter.com/DaniElainaFore https://twitter.com/DaniElainaFore It's updated on the EOS Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/shdouy/updates_for_january_2022_elementary_blog/ https://old.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/shdouy/update... It's updated on the company blog: https://blog.elementary.io/elementary-os-6-1-available-now/ https://blog.elementary.io/elementary-os-6-1-available-now/ And it's plainly obvious on the company YouTube channel if you compare Q&A/livestreams between months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfyFew7toGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfyFew7toGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu9-F6B2Gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu9-F6B2Gs I would be willing to overlook that kind of flagrant oversight if not for the fact that Lunduke calls himself A JOURNALIST. That he would continue to use her dead-name despite all of the research he's supposed to do as part of his job makes him either malicious or incompetent. Take your pick.
  - ddtaylor 5y ago
    The handle is actually quite new. She transitioned months ago but didn't update her handles until last week.

toasteros 5y ago

It is intentional. Lunduke spends most of his time doling out hate towards trans people now. There's a (now deleted) twitter exchange between him and someone he calls "a man in a dress". He is a very hateful person these days.

josteink 5y ago
That sounds like quite a narrow-sighted view of the man. The way I see him, he is cheerful, enthusiastic and tries to find joy and fun in technology and computing. Color me prejudist, but that's probably the polar opposite of trying to find politics in technology and computing. Besides, not everyone is 100% caught up in this trans-bubble, where being trans is the single most important thing in the universe. I realize it is for some people, a small minority, and that's perfectly OK. But at the same time, it is not for the vast majority, and most people just don't care that much, and don't pay much attention to the subject, at all. And that's not wrong. It's OK too. And the minority will just have to deal with different people being different. That's sort of their schtick too, isn't it? Would it be completely out of this world to assume that Lunduke is simply being careless here, because it's not on his radar? I certainly wouldn't go checking if people I've interviewed before have changed gender since last time around, before referring to them in an article.
- toasteros 5y ago
  > Would it be completely out of this world to assume that Lunduke is simply being careless here, because it's not on his radar? I certainly wouldn't go checking if people I've interviewed before have changed gender since last time around, before referring to them in an article. I'd love it if that were the case, but his comments directly aimed at trans people suggest otherwise. He is anti-vax & anti-trans and you just have to scroll down his twitter feed to see just how hateful he is. Finding "fun" in technology is not telling women that they are men in dresses, using their deadnames, or vocally pulling your kids out of school because of "medical tyranny". I have no love for the wacky Linux Sucks guy anymore. His radicalism and hate has coloured his views too much for me. Yes, it is narrow minded of me to shut him out of my headspace forever. But y'know what? That's okay. It's just Bryan Lunduke. Just some guy. He's as relevant to me as I am to you.