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Exactly my feeling about this. Biden and Trump also both ramble incoherent sentences all the time, so they do talk like GPT-3, making it much harder to discern

by carlmr 5y ago

Exactly my feeling about this. Biden and Trump also both ramble incoherent sentences all the time, so they do talk like GPT-3, making it much harder to discern text fakes here. The only thing that made me score higher than random on the text segments was assuming that the stereotypical extreme things for Trump and Biden to say are usually fake. I.e. they used a bit of truth but stretched it too far.

propogandist 5y ago
>Biden and Trump also both ramble incoherent sentences all the time, only one of these two does it with 100% consistency, especially if there's no teleprompter, even then he flubs it. One wrote mostly coherent thoughts in 140 characters, the other has handlers. Guess which one got cancelled?
KarlKemp 5y ago
This is just nihilistic cynicism. Both Trump and Biden speak in easily understood sentences. I would tend to disagree with Trump more often than not, but that doesn't mean he isn't a clear communicator. Biden is different in that he choses his words more carefully. There are many questions where it is better for him and the US to not answer a question, so he won't. But nothing about either person's sentences is 'incoherent'. And 'stretching the truth too far' is something entirely different. Incoherent sentences, by definition, cannot be 'stretching the truth', because they convey no meaning.
- carlmr 5y ago
  >Both Trump and Biden speak in easily understood sentences. They do, unless they don't. And that's the issue, because these text snippets could be a gaffe, or they could be GPT-3. GPT-3 often gives you similar, somewhat meaningful sounding sentences that are a semantic mess. https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc https://youtu.be/sli2Vn6Iiy4 https://youtu.be/sli2Vn6Iiy4 I'm not saying everything that Trump and Biden say is like this, but the existence of so many bumbling speech examples from both makes it really hard to discern what is real and what is fake.

by carlmr 5y ago

propogandist 5y ago

>Biden and Trump also both ramble incoherent sentences all the time, only one of these two does it with 100% consistency, especially if there's no teleprompter, even then he flubs it. One wrote mostly coherent thoughts in 140 characters, the other has handlers. Guess which one got cancelled?

KarlKemp 5y ago

This is just nihilistic cynicism. Both Trump and Biden speak in easily understood sentences. I would tend to disagree with Trump more often than not, but that doesn't mean he isn't a clear communicator. Biden is different in that he choses his words more carefully. There are many questions where it is better for him and the US to not answer a question, so he won't. But nothing about either person's sentences is 'incoherent'. And 'stretching the truth too far' is something entirely different. Incoherent sentences, by definition, cannot be 'stretching the truth', because they convey no meaning.

carlmr 5y ago
>Both Trump and Biden speak in easily understood sentences. They do, unless they don't. And that's the issue, because these text snippets could be a gaffe, or they could be GPT-3. GPT-3 often gives you similar, somewhat meaningful sounding sentences that are a semantic mess. https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc https://youtu.be/4MyLwAokINc https://youtu.be/sli2Vn6Iiy4 https://youtu.be/sli2Vn6Iiy4 I'm not saying everything that Trump and Biden say is like this, but the existence of so many bumbling speech examples from both makes it really hard to discern what is real and what is fake.