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> but there's no good solutions to charge your car in most places like apartment buildings Sure there is: add chargers to more parking spaces. They don't even

> but there's no good solutions to charge your car in most places like apartment buildings Sure there is: add chargers to more parking spaces. They don't even necessarily need to be fast chargers; cars parked at apartments will typically be parked for multiple hours at a time (heck, possibly even days). There are benefits for non-EV owners, too (namely: that power could just as well be used to run a battery tender or block heater). Yeah, it ain't cheap (yet), but when you compare to the cost of gas (even without wars in Eastern Europe), it pays for itself.

supernova87a 5y ago
Not sure if you have encountered this yourself, but achieving this is a huge problem and has many, many issues. Apartment buildings not built with EVs in mind are notoriously hard to retrofit to enable charging. And I don't simply mean the wiring from some central electrical room to parking spaces -- that difficult part is actually the easy part. There are endless issues in getting such places wired up: -- Which spots get wired? When every parking spot is owned by someone, whose will it be? How is the ownership of the charging spots determined? -- Who will pay for the spots to be wired? Who pays for upgrades to the building infrastructure (and structure) that needs to be upgraded or fitted with central equipment (i.e. non-specific person owned)? -- How will the electricity be billed and paid for? This influences how the wiring and hardware upgrades need to be designed and built. -- How is liability and insurance for the equipment's operation handled? These are truly non-trivial questions that have to be answered. Inability to answer these questions to the owners of a building's satisfaction actually stops progress on this topic.
- yellowapple 5y ago
  > Which spots get wired? All of them. > Who will pay for the spots to be wired? Who pays for upgrades to the building infrastructure (and structure) that needs to be upgraded or fitted with central equipment (i.e. non-specific person owned)? The landlord. > How will the electricity be billed and paid for? Included in rent. > How is liability and insurance for the equipment's operation handled? Same way it's handled for every other amenity. > These are truly non-trivial questions that have to be answered. And yet they're demonstrably answerable in all of 2 minutes. They're "non-trivial" only because landlords are cheapskates.

supernova87a 5y ago

Not sure if you have encountered this yourself, but achieving this is a huge problem and has many, many issues. Apartment buildings not built with EVs in mind are notoriously hard to retrofit to enable charging. And I don't simply mean the wiring from some central electrical room to parking spaces -- that difficult part is actually the easy part. There are endless issues in getting such places wired up: -- Which spots get wired? When every parking spot is owned by someone, whose will it be? How is the ownership of the charging spots determined? -- Who will pay for the spots to be wired? Who pays for upgrades to the building infrastructure (and structure) that needs to be upgraded or fitted with central equipment (i.e. non-specific person owned)? -- How will the electricity be billed and paid for? This influences how the wiring and hardware upgrades need to be designed and built. -- How is liability and insurance for the equipment's operation handled? These are truly non-trivial questions that have to be answered. Inability to answer these questions to the owners of a building's satisfaction actually stops progress on this topic.

yellowapple 5y ago
> Which spots get wired? All of them. > Who will pay for the spots to be wired? Who pays for upgrades to the building infrastructure (and structure) that needs to be upgraded or fitted with central equipment (i.e. non-specific person owned)? The landlord. > How will the electricity be billed and paid for? Included in rent. > How is liability and insurance for the equipment's operation handled? Same way it's handled for every other amenity. > These are truly non-trivial questions that have to be answered. And yet they're demonstrably answerable in all of 2 minutes. They're "non-trivial" only because landlords are cheapskates.