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I went AMD for the first time with my new laptop. Some 8 core Ryzen. Games crash all the time, not sure if it'd the architecture's fault, and I can't properly v

I went AMD for the first time with my new laptop. Some 8 core Ryzen. Games crash all the time, not sure if it'd the architecture's fault, and I can't properly virtualize Windows 98 (which I like to just for fun/nostalgia) apparently due to the architecture. I feel like I'm sticking with Intel from now on like my old gut instinct said to.

jquery 5y ago
With respect to games crashing, it's almost certainly not the architecture's fault. Far more likely is a system configuration or driver issue. I had more issues with my previous Intel build than my current Zen2 Ryzen (64 core TR). I have almost no issues with virtualization or gaming now. That said, my hardware is rarely pushed to its limits so that might be a factor. As an aside, given how Intel squandered its near-monopoly for years until AMD came up from behind and kicked 'em in the pants, I'll be sticking with AMD out of principle. I'm especially upset at some of the really dirty tricks Intel pulled in the past.
- BuckRogers 5y ago
  To share the other side of the coin. Your experience, while valid, is not actually the norm from what I've read and experienced. I had 4 Ryzen chips since the initial launch in 2017 and none of them were as stable or fast as my current 8-core Intel system. All subsystems tested faster as well, including storage performance. I'm someone who buys and has the latest and greatest side by side. Random IOPS is off the charts faster on Intel my 1:1 tests between real-world system with the same drive. I had mediocre (but suitable) experiences with Athlon chips 22 years ago, with the same basic outcome: great CPUs, mediocre platform (chipset engineering etc). I understand your emotions about AMD and Intel, you may not be "wrong". I have no strong feelings on that, just want what works. But for holistic engineering my 40 years of PC building experience is persuasive towards Intel products.
- vardump 5y ago
  "With respect to games crashing, it's almost certainly not the architecture's fault." Indeed. Especially for "AAA" games designed to run on major AMD-based consoles such as Xbox and Playstation. Those games might actually be slightly more likely to be broken on Intel systems!

jquery 5y ago

With respect to games crashing, it's almost certainly not the architecture's fault. Far more likely is a system configuration or driver issue. I had more issues with my previous Intel build than my current Zen2 Ryzen (64 core TR). I have almost no issues with virtualization or gaming now. That said, my hardware is rarely pushed to its limits so that might be a factor. As an aside, given how Intel squandered its near-monopoly for years until AMD came up from behind and kicked 'em in the pants, I'll be sticking with AMD out of principle. I'm especially upset at some of the really dirty tricks Intel pulled in the past.

BuckRogers 5y ago
To share the other side of the coin. Your experience, while valid, is not actually the norm from what I've read and experienced. I had 4 Ryzen chips since the initial launch in 2017 and none of them were as stable or fast as my current 8-core Intel system. All subsystems tested faster as well, including storage performance. I'm someone who buys and has the latest and greatest side by side. Random IOPS is off the charts faster on Intel my 1:1 tests between real-world system with the same drive. I had mediocre (but suitable) experiences with Athlon chips 22 years ago, with the same basic outcome: great CPUs, mediocre platform (chipset engineering etc). I understand your emotions about AMD and Intel, you may not be "wrong". I have no strong feelings on that, just want what works. But for holistic engineering my 40 years of PC building experience is persuasive towards Intel products.
vardump 5y ago
"With respect to games crashing, it's almost certainly not the architecture's fault." Indeed. Especially for "AAA" games designed to run on major AMD-based consoles such as Xbox and Playstation. Those games might actually be slightly more likely to be broken on Intel systems!