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what do you think the logic of the Cold War was? It was exactly this. Economic isolation and forcing them into a military arms race worked once. And Russia toda

what do you think the logic of the Cold War was? It was exactly this. Economic isolation and forcing them into a military arms race worked once. And Russia today is no match for the Soviet Union. We've had threats of nuclear annihilation and proxy wars literally for decades, the world didn't start in the 90s. Go watch some TV commercials from the 70s and 80s.(https://youtu.be/F0OPVi90-lg https://youtu.be/F0OPVi90-lg), this is how most of the latter half of the 20th century looked like.

analyte123 5y ago
That was when China had a GDP of $400B, as opposed to now ($15T).
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  So? It's not China that's marching on Kyiv.
  - newacc9 5y ago
    how can you say that when they are about to annex taiwan?
    - number6 5y ago
      Give them russia instead
- Barrin92 5y ago
  and we're talking about a confrontation with Russia right now, not with China. If China wants to pay the bill for Russia's adventures they're free to do so, but from their ambivalent reaction it's pretty obvious that they're not to keen on it either. The West is 50% of the world's economy, Russia 2%. China knows this. There's no reason to instinctively flinch every time someone in the Kremlin or in Beijing throws a tantrum. Leadership in China and Russia responds to strength and making countries pay a price for moving borders violently is going to make the world more stable. The US and Europe aren't going to get nuked, where do you think the children of all those leaders live right now? You think they're gonna glass their own kids in those fancy apartments in Rotterdam, London or New York? It's just bluster.
  - blagie 5y ago
    ... but Russia and China are 100% synergistic. Russia has natural resources, which China needs. Russia is 11% of the world's land area. China is getting to the point where it doesn't need the West, but it definitely needs resources to feed growth.
syshum 5y ago
The Logic of the cold war was to enrich a ton of politically connected companies. Whom I am sure will be right there to make a shit ton more money off the American Tax Payer, Present and Future

analyte123 5y ago

That was when China had a GDP of $400B, as opposed to now ($15T).

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
So? It's not China that's marching on Kyiv.
- newacc9 5y ago
  how can you say that when they are about to annex taiwan?
  - number6 5y ago
    Give them russia instead
Barrin92 5y ago
and we're talking about a confrontation with Russia right now, not with China. If China wants to pay the bill for Russia's adventures they're free to do so, but from their ambivalent reaction it's pretty obvious that they're not to keen on it either. The West is 50% of the world's economy, Russia 2%. China knows this. There's no reason to instinctively flinch every time someone in the Kremlin or in Beijing throws a tantrum. Leadership in China and Russia responds to strength and making countries pay a price for moving borders violently is going to make the world more stable. The US and Europe aren't going to get nuked, where do you think the children of all those leaders live right now? You think they're gonna glass their own kids in those fancy apartments in Rotterdam, London or New York? It's just bluster.
- blagie 5y ago
  ... but Russia and China are 100% synergistic. Russia has natural resources, which China needs. Russia is 11% of the world's land area. China is getting to the point where it doesn't need the West, but it definitely needs resources to feed growth.

syshum 5y ago

The Logic of the cold war was to enrich a ton of politically connected companies. Whom I am sure will be right there to make a shit ton more money off the American Tax Payer, Present and Future